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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2011 18:02:29 GMT -8
bluemoth,
Yes, if getting a bunch of stuff is your goal, then getting an I/E License is a good idea. I used to be a licensed importer and all, but unless I spent thousands, the costs got to be too high to warrant the $100 License and $200+ costs per package to bring them in. So, I decided to abandon the Commercial License I had. When I did import, I did get great stuff at a fraction of the cost a dealer would charge. Don't forget what someone said----piggyback several people's orders/purchases and bring them in paying for one inspection fee etc. There is nothing illegal about that as long as the paperwork is done correctly. What a commercial importer does with properly inspected material is up to that person---plain and simple---because they are the 'importer of record'.
Have fun and be careful.
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Post by bluemoth on Aug 26, 2011 17:32:35 GMT -8
Hay Billgarthe how do you piggy back a few orders to only pay one inspection fee? Also I contacted FW got good info on permits. They want a list of species with each import shipment. But what if exporter dos not know name of say a few undetermined moths from South America in shipment? Dos exporter ID down to family as close as possible? Also I have seen adds in classifieds for mix of unidentified leps or bugs in the past. How is that delt with when list of names are needed for export?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2011 18:12:13 GMT -8
First, I have no experience in exporting, so I can't help you there. Second, piggy-backing works like this. Person A has I/E Commercial license and orders/pays for 50 bugs Person B orders/pays for 30 bugs and has agreed to have them put with Person A's material Person C orders/pays for 50 bugs and has them included with Person A's material. Person A has the importer create one Invoice for all 130 bugs or the Person A can even help create the Invoice if the seller agrees. The exporter sends the box to Person A who gets the 130 bugs inspected then sends B and C their respective bugs. Costs? Well, if the three Persons A, B, and C have agreed to terms prior to ordering like they should have, each will pay 1/3 of the Inspection fee, shipping, and perhaps Persons B and C might pay a bit extra to A for using his/her I/E License. This should be done among friends and the Invoice should be crystal clear. Lastly, what is put on Form 3-177 is largely determined by the Inspector involved. Some will let an importer put VS if a well-done Invoice of the species/countries of orgin is provided. Other Inspectors are fecal-like in nature and require all kinds of data. With piggy-backing, the importer of record is (as far as the USFW is concerned) importing 130 bugs. What happens to them after being Cleared is up to the importer. That is the good part about ones having a Commercial license.
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Post by nomihoudai on Aug 27, 2011 0:50:11 GMT -8
I just leave this here
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2011 7:55:56 GMT -8
nomihoudai,
.............if only working with the USFW were as easly......
p.s. enjoyed the clip,....but.....those guys had it kinda easy, for it only took 10+ minutes ;D
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Post by wingedwishes on Aug 27, 2011 16:54:29 GMT -8
Piggybacking has another benefit. When each of the 3 people need say 10 Papilio paris, they may get a discount because they order a larger number. Some places like Insect-Sale.com have a 10% discount when $1,000 or more is ordered.
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Post by exoticimports on Aug 29, 2011 7:16:10 GMT -8
If you piggyback, better plan on the "what if" What if the shipment is seized? What if there are additional charges for the inspection? What if it has to go to a bonded warehouse and incurs big charges? What if one of the two identical specimens is damaged? Who gets the good one? Who has to coordinate the replacement from overseas? Who pays for the upcoming second shipment/inspection?
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