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Post by airpic on Oct 3, 2011 12:16:55 GMT -8
Hi all im trying to find suppliers of different tarantulas, ive had a very good look around the net and only seem to be able to find live ones.
any info much appreciated
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Post by starlightcriminal on Oct 5, 2011 8:43:49 GMT -8
Find a pet store with poorly cared for animals? lol. Maybe if you write to the people who rear them they can offer you the dead adults at a better price than the live. Or you can buy slings and raise them yourself, but I'll warn you they make very good, low maintenance and interesting observational pets and can live a while in many cases, so you might find you end up with lots of live ones and none for spreading after many years.
There's a red knee used for teaching that is kept at the University here, she just turned 40 not long ago. Granted she has devoted and credentialed expert care, but not unusual at all.
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Post by anthony on Oct 9, 2011 7:34:05 GMT -8
Ken the Bug Guy supplies live invertebates of all kinds, many tarantulas. I am sure some pass on why not contact him about supplying you with dead specimins?. Web address same as name.
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Post by wingedwishes on Oct 13, 2011 11:47:42 GMT -8
I had no idea that some tarantulas could live 40 years Starlight! Tarantulas are hard to come by through a pet store but maybe the pet store could inform their supplier that they have a buyer for dead individuals. At least 2 advertisers on the insectnet home page currently have tarantulas. In Taiwan www.Insect-Sale.com. I have ordered from them many times in the past but there are permits that should be obtained to import into the USA. Another is located in Florida but he has only one species right now. www.TropicalButterflies.com (aka Miguel Serrano) has male Steely Blue Bird Eaters and they are in good shape. I got 2 of them just a few weeks ago.
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Post by starlightcriminal on Oct 14, 2011 9:12:30 GMT -8
Yes, winged, they do have an impressive potential life span for an almost-spider (ever count their legs carefully?) don't they? I think the record is half a century but maybe that has even changed since I was more involved with them. I was shocked when I found this out as well as most pet stores will give you a 15-20 year estimate on an average "old" female. This might be true because interest is lost in them over time or as a result of bad care, but I know for certain that this is not the full potential. I used to keep a wide variety of tarantula myself, I have just a few now as I was required to thin down when my spider-phobic wife came into the picture. She graciously allows me to keep those I still have despite her legitimate fear, albeit an irrational phobia, but they definitely moved out of the bedroom and into an out of sight location, lol. I reared all of mine from slings, the trendy term for spiderlings. It's a lot of fun to watch them change as they transition from instar to instar. Better chances of getting girls this was too. Because males live so much shorter lives they are more often available when you are looking at adult examples and are also therefor supposed to be much cheaper.
A lot of breeders will secretly retain their females and sell off "unsexed" juveniles that have actually been sexed and sorted already. Rather dishonest. You can sex a baby tarantula when they aren't very large at all, just a couple of inches, with great accuracy if you cup it and turn it over- males have fusillae about where the apex of the leg unions are that can be spotted easily with a handlens. But most people won't manhandle their tarantula (for good reason, don't recommend it for you and your tarantula's safety in general) or even know what to look for so they are sold males as either "unsexed" or sometimes even sold as females when they clearly are not. I even once had a guy trying to sell me a female tarantula that had mating hooks on his pedipalps. And this guy clearly knew what he was doing, especially the part where the he marked up the cost to $100.00 more than what the male counterpart would fetch on the market.
Tarantulas are an interesting thing- lots of unknowns available in the pet market with just purported names but no definite description despite being well represented in the pet market for years. Pamphobeteus sp. "Platyomma" which might be Vitalius or something else entirely is a commonly available example of this phenomena. It's not like nursery plants where they do have real latin names and are just not correctly applied if used at all; many tarantulas are only known by the pet trade names. They really beg for some extensive collecting and taxonomic research as I'm sure a great number of them could be resolved and named or renamed as required. Not sure why they get so little scientific attention in the invertebrate community, they are really noticeable which usually means well studied.
I really recommend getting in touch with some of the big breeders and dealers- you would likely be able to pick up atleast recently deceased males. Swift's Inverts, PetCenterUSA, Ken The Bug Guy are all big breeders/importers in the US that might be able to sell you dead adults. Keeping in mind the short relative life of males and the fact that tarantulas are gentle lovers in general, they would all likely have deceased males throughout the year. All of those listed have excellent stock so you might be able to get some very beautiful specimens. There are more too of course, those are just names that strike me as big national dealers. If you are in Europe you will have an even easier time getting a hold of breeders.
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Post by airpic on Oct 20, 2011 18:52:41 GMT -8
Thanks for all the coments, sadly tho im not able to pop into a pet store to get hold of one or two, as im from Over seas and they are outlawed live and only availbe to be imported dead, so far in my colection i have got H. Minax H. lividum P. antinous and H. gigas. the ones i really want are things like pink toed, king baboon, red knee, zebra striped, etc all the nice colours, now sadly a couple of these are cities II so need permits to come into the country or dont get past customs.
will look the bug guy up tho and see how i go. have delt with insect-sale before but they dont seem to have anything different from my normal supplier
Cheers
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Post by wingedwishes on Oct 25, 2011 18:07:17 GMT -8
I am currently working to get a friend in Florida to get his South African family to collect spiders for me. If this ever happens, I will post an ad. His family is not rich but does live a comfortable life so they would do it for fun to start.
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