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Post by wingedwishes on Oct 27, 2011 10:42:20 GMT -8
I'm thinking there should be a national set of regs rather than state to state. In my experience, breeders and rescues are given much more slack than a zoo if they alll had the same infraction. The ultimate responsibility of those animals deaths rests on the crazy owner. Having dealt with these kinds of animals myself I know LE reacted out of fear but they were cleaning up someone elses mess.
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Post by starlightcriminal on Oct 28, 2011 6:23:43 GMT -8
Yes, that's just it winged, I completely agree. People often claim they are a "sanctuary" so they can hoard animals and ask for unwanted pets for free. It's very common with parrots and farm animals, everywhere here in Florida. I've seen quite a few "sanctuaries" which are worse than even the worst pet store I have seen with tiny caged full of dirty, screaming and feather plucked parrots that are receiving "sanctuary" from some nutjob that can't afford to feed them all so they call themselves a "sanctuary" to subsidize the installation with tax credits and donations. If only the people who donated new what they were actually paying for. There is a guy that always brings his pet FLorida Panther to the local flea market. He puts up all of these "save the panther" posters and such that he takes from our state agencies and then puts out a big jar for donations. In reality, this is his pet panther and he is a poor, rural idiot who cannot afford the huge volumes of raw, fresh meat required to feed an apex predator of that sort. Not only that he also encourages people to pet it through the shotty, falling apart cage he tows it around in, it's really a tragedy to see such a majestic animal subjected to such things and to be a part of this dishonest endeavor. It amazes me that people will give him money without even checking into him or why it is he has a panther at every flea market on the weekends. I stay far away from it and the area of the market he is in when I do happen to go there because I have always thought to myself "one day that thing is going to get pissed at one of the little dogs walking around here that bark at it incessantly or one of the kids poking it through the cage. It's going to knock that flimsy cage to pieces and kill someone."
I think the same thing about regulations- any animal of that magnitude of danger and rarity should be on a national register. It is mostly the responsibility of the owner, but I think our nation has to accept some blame too for allowing a man like that to get into this situation. He was clearly never a fit or responsible owner, he should never have been in the position to purchase even one.
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Post by saturniidave on Oct 28, 2011 6:58:10 GMT -8
And all this by the people that charge hundreds of Dollars to import a few dead butterflies?  So you can keep a Tiger in your back yard but you can't import a cabbage white from England?  Your government is having a laugh aren't they?  |
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Post by anthony on Oct 28, 2011 15:06:16 GMT -8
Also once in a while a pet snake kills a person or child, not to mention the ones turned loose in Florida.
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Post by mikelock34 on Nov 3, 2011 11:38:03 GMT -8
There is a very important number missing from the above list........The number of people killed or injured by dogs in the USA each year. Using the reasoning above, if more people were killed or injured by dogs, then dogs should be outlawed as pets and more people should acquire pet tigers. I wonder how many lives were saved by the redneck, trigger happy, morons stopping those large animals.................................
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Post by wingedwishes on Nov 3, 2011 13:36:42 GMT -8
Dogs are commonly considered domesticated as are housecats. Tigers are not. However - dogs which menace law enforcement are shot as well. Your cariacature of those who shot the animals is incorrect. If you compare the number of dogs in the country and calculate the number of deaths from said dogs, the statistical percentage is very low. If you are comparing felines to canines we should include the housecat as well. If you compare the number of exotic felines and canines to the number of human deaths.....the number is higher.
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Post by mikelock34 on Nov 4, 2011 12:38:13 GMT -8
Try tongue in cheek for the description of the law enforcement. That was along the lines of the nomenclature above used to describe them. Percentages are not "real." They are a tool used to manipulate results. The actual numbers are what is relevant. If one person or one thousand people are killed then that is the number that is important. If tigers have killed ten people in the last ten years and dogs have killed three hundred people in the last ten years then ten people and three hundred people were killed. If ten equals 90% of a group and three hundred equals 1% of a group, ten people and three hundred people have still died.
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Post by wingedwishes on Nov 4, 2011 13:04:01 GMT -8
I get it. I still agree with Jack Hanna and the officers in this matter though. I think percentages when they are used to determine safety of decisions are valid.
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Post by wingedwishes on Nov 7, 2011 9:19:15 GMT -8
On a similar note............
20 minutes ago I had to nearly strangle a wolf hybrid to get it to let go of a pit bull with my bare hands. It was a terrifying thing to have only your wits and training to stop an animal that has the power to kill you.
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