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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 3, 2012 6:01:13 GMT -8
It is probably best to treat it as ssp. tianschanicus, as that is the real ssp. (the other names are synonyms) from most of Kyrghizstan except the south which is ssp. insignis. It is not possible to definitively state which ssp. your female belongs to just from its appearance, as tianschanicus is rather variable.
Adam.
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Post by dynastes on Nov 3, 2012 10:31:26 GMT -8
It is probably best to treat it as ssp. tianschanicus, as that is the real ssp. (the other names are synonyms) from most of Kyrghizstan except the south which is ssp. insignis. It is not possible to definitively state which ssp. your female belongs to just from its appearance, as tianschanicus is rather variable. Adam. clear. thanks a lot
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Post by dynastes on Nov 4, 2012 4:59:00 GMT -8
It is probably best to treat it as ssp. tianschanicus, as that is the real ssp. (the other names are synonyms) from most of Kyrghizstan except the south which is ssp. insignis. It is not possible to definitively state which ssp. your female belongs to just from its appearance, as tianschanicus is rather variable. Adam. most likely place,where were catch this individual of tianschanicus - Alai Range
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 4, 2012 10:44:57 GMT -8
If it came from Alai Range, then it is ssp. insignis, but it is not possible to be sure just by looking at the single specimen. Some authors (eg. Tshikolovets) treat almost all tianschanicus under the nominate subspecies, including insignis.
I won't go into detail about the other problem, which is that many names including insignis are infrasubspecific, and thus unavailable.
Adam.
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Post by dynastes on Nov 4, 2012 12:23:37 GMT -8
Yes, it is a problem. Location of spots on the wings of different species can be highly variable, so described and constantly described many new forms and subspecies. Also, the second problem - now existing approaches to intraspecific taxonomy of either giving each population specific species subspecies status, or complete denial of subspecies and their reduction to infrasubspecific forms.
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