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Post by nomad on Jul 3, 2013 10:49:19 GMT -8
I find you can usually tell at once if a Lysandra verso specimen differs from the normal butterfly. Extreme aberrations are really hard to obtain, that is what makes the collection of coridon and bellargus shown so outstanding. His bellargus aberrations specimens also contain many rare forms. In the past collectors would often visit a locality because they knew there was a good chance of perhaps capturing the rarity they wanted. It has been said that these blue aberrations are much scarcer than in former times, even though there are today hardly any collectors in the field today in the U.K. This may be because there has been a decline in these species generally. The Bright and Leeds book is a must for those interested in these aberrations. I think there is no harm in naming these very interesting infa specific forms. What annoys me more is when Taxonomists constantly change the genus names, Lysandra has become Polyommatus, why? I have rarely encountered good blue aberrations but recently I found this interesting female ab of bellargus, which I believe may be named obsoleta.
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Post by nomad on Jul 3, 2013 21:00:54 GMT -8
Here is a nice drawer of Adonis Blue [Lysandra bellargus] with rare aberrations and gynandromorphs. I hope some will enjoy these, I have.
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Post by timmsyrj on Jul 3, 2013 22:53:42 GMT -8
Bob and Olivier, I've done some of my best collecting late at night or very early in the morning, last time I was in the alps I concentrated on the low areas and woodlands during the day and ascending to a high col at night to sleep in the car, the last couple of hours at night and first 2-3 hours of the morning above the tree line you can find all families roosting on grasses, some roost alone others in small same species groups others in larger mixed species groups, usually in sheltered areas especially bottom of the bank along the side of mountain roads or small hollows, first thing in the morning you can quite easily spot any specimens that emerged overnight, they stand out like new coins, underside variation/ABBS are easy to spot. I once found a roost of mainly fritillaries on the Petit Saint Bernard Pass just inside Italy that had High brown, Dark green, niobe, titanias, pearl bordered, mountain, spotted and cynthias in huge numbers along with loads of Erebia , mountain Pieridae and dotted around there was a couple of dozen Apollo. Damaged and flight worn specimens are easily spotted without having to net them, box them and check them and then release them.
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Post by bobw on Jul 4, 2013 0:42:52 GMT -8
Bob and Olivier, I've done some of my best collecting late at night or very early in the morning, last time I was in the alps I concentrated on the low areas and woodlands during the day and ascending to a high col at night to sleep in the car, the last couple of hours at night and first 2-3 hours of the morning above the tree line you can find all families roosting on grasses, some roost alone others in small same species groups others in larger mixed species groups, usually in sheltered areas especially bottom of the bank along the side of mountain roads or small hollows, first thing in the morning you can quite easily spot any specimens that emerged overnight, they stand out like new coins, underside variation/ABBS are easy to spot. I once found a roost of mainly fritillaries on the Petit Saint Bernard Pass just inside Italy that had High brown, Dark green, niobe, titanias, pearl bordered, mountain, spotted and cynthias in huge numbers along with loads of Erebia , mountain Pieridae and dotted around there was a couple of dozen Apollo. Damaged and flight worn specimens are easily spotted without having to net them, box them and check them and then release them. Absolutely! If you're lucky enough to find roosting sites it's the easiest way to collect. I once asked a Danish team going to the Yemen to look out for Colias electo for me. People collecting by day caught about 3 in a week. One Noctuid collector walking around the grassland by night with a headlamp picked up plenty that were roosting. Bob
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Post by nomad on Jul 12, 2013 20:32:02 GMT -8
The image of the aberration of Adonis Blue [ L. Bellargus ] shown is this thread is apparently not ab obsoleta but the rarer ab krodeli [ Gillmer].
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Post by nomad on Sept 21, 2013 22:55:43 GMT -8
I found this nice female Lysandra bellargus underside aberration yesterday [ Sept 21 ] which is in the U.K very late for this butterfly. It is similar in some respects to the male ab krodeli shown above, which was found in the spring in the same locality in the same area. This female ab has nearly all the forewing black spots missing, as in the male ab krodeli but a few the more black spots on the hindwing , although less than is usual. I like the enhanced white areas on the hindwing margins. Female L. bellargus aberration. Normal L. bellargus female. Same locality August 2013. Normal female 21 Sept.
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Post by nomad on Sept 22, 2013 2:01:09 GMT -8
In the early to middle part of the 20th century, there was a well known craze for collecting aberrations of the British Blues. None more so than the varieties to be found in Lysandra coridon. There is the ' Monograph of the British Aberrations of the Chalkhill Blue' by P.M Bright and H. A Leeds published in 1939, a now scarce work. The wealthy Percy Bright was a cheque book collector who visited famous collecting localities such as Royston Heath in Hertfordshire and made the finder of a special coridon aberration, an offer he could not refuse. Another interesting character of the aberration blue collecting craze was Robert ' Porker ' Watson, a tax accountant, who was quite an eccentric individual. As a young man he won prizes for wrestling at fairs and was later married five times. He built himself a house which he named Porcorum - ' of pigs '. Blind in one eye, he was probably one of the most successful British butterfly hunters of all time, securing many extreme aberrations especially regarding L. coridon. Watson made an incredible L. coridon collection of 20.800 specimens which will never be rivalled. The Watson Chalkhill Blue collection is housed in thirteen mahogany cabinets and is now in the collection of the British Museum of Natural History. Plate from the 1939 Monograph by P.M. Bright and H.A. Leeds. Plate from Aberrations of British Butterflies by A.D.A Russwurm [ 1978 ] showing some of Robert Watson's extreme L. coridon aberrations. Russwurm was also a great collector of British butterfly aberrations and all the 40 colour plates in his book showing 300 specimens were painted by himself.
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Post by nomad on Sept 26, 2013 11:10:17 GMT -8
Robert Watson,the great Chalkhill Blue collector, mentioned above lived in Bournemouth and only named his house that strange name to win a bet. Watson was a kindly man, who used to have open days, so other collectors could see examine his vast collection of British butterflies and moths which was housed in 65 Hill cabinets. Often younger collectors would leave with gifts of store boxes and setting boards. The Hill cabinet was considered by many to one of the best British cabinets ever made. Watson had many rare aberrations of many different species and his entire collection was bequeathed to the BMNH.
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Post by smallcopper on Dec 23, 2013 11:39:34 GMT -8
Inspired by a very kind gift I received in the post today - an early Christmas present of an ab.semisyngrapha + arcuata - I've been a -browsing the interweb looking at photos of what some lucky people have come across in the field this year. Apart from the usual suspects, there's a particularly striking L.coridon underside. Check this out: www.ukbutterflies.co.uk/phpBB/gallery/images/upload/ccc272a5408279cee19a16c9b4c2cd07.jpgJust when you think you've seen everything, these variable butterflies throw you a curveball! It'd be heart-in-mouth time if you found this...
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Post by nomad on Dec 23, 2013 13:02:22 GMT -8
Gosh, That's just amazing, I have never seen anything like that aberration, I will have to show that to Clive, when I visit him next Friday!
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Post by nomihoudai on Dec 23, 2013 14:44:15 GMT -8
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Post by smallcopper on Jan 9, 2014 4:36:52 GMT -8
Gosh, That's just amazing, I have never seen anything like that aberration, I will have to show that to Clive, when I visit him next Friday! A bonkers-looking specimen, wasn't it? One of the joys of the internet and the advent of digital photography that these don't necessarily go unrecorded, and we can all vicariously enjoy them from afar. (Not to say that I wouldn't sell a minor organ for the chance to have this grace my collection!)
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Post by nomad on Feb 12, 2014 11:33:55 GMT -8
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Post by timmsyrj on Feb 15, 2014 7:34:36 GMT -8
Some amazing specimens on here, this is my top pair of the lysandra family the local albicans bolivari taken a few years back now when I visited Chris Farrell when he lived in Madrid. Attachment Deleted
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Post by nomihoudai on Feb 15, 2014 20:14:29 GMT -8
Is this really bolivari? My bolivari are snow white, literally.
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