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Post by nomihoudai on Aug 13, 2013 5:58:34 GMT -8
Hi, I will be heading to the natural history museum tomorrow and I can take pictures of Lepidoptera. I want to use these pictures as rewards in a little game that I am currently working on and I wanted to ask what butterfly species the other insectnet users would enjoy to see in a well resolved picture? The collection does of course not have every species, but a large amount of expensive and showy species from tropical regions.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2013 6:30:17 GMT -8
I would enjoy seeing homerus.
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Post by simosg on Aug 13, 2013 9:52:37 GMT -8
Papilio elphenor and godefroyii.
Hannes
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Post by africaone on Aug 13, 2013 10:38:41 GMT -8
argema besanti, Actias isabellae urania ripheus charaxes lydiae or fournierae Ornithoptera alexandrae or paradisea Buthanitis Agrias
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Post by nomihoudai on Aug 13, 2013 11:40:23 GMT -8
Thanks for the suggestions. I don't think that there will be a Papilio elphenor, but maybe a Papilio godeffroyi, I will see about that. Buthanitis is also a great suggestion, I will check which species they have. I think I will also have a go at Ornithoptera paradisea, there should be plenty of those in the collection, I can't imagine that they don't have a series. I'm not sure if they have a homerus, but if they do so I will take a pic of it.
Further suggestions welcome, I will only have a few hours in the museum and want to make the best out of the time.
For example, what is the rarest Troides species? I would check if they have that one.
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Post by simosg on Aug 13, 2013 11:53:14 GMT -8
Troides darsius, which only occurs at Sri Lanka. Troides minos from India is very rare also. Which museum are you going to?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2013 12:27:21 GMT -8
Nymphalis cyanomelas would be good.
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Post by nomad on Aug 13, 2013 12:32:20 GMT -8
Gosh, you are going to be busy with your camera, I presume it is the Paris museum that you are visiting. Any specimens of any species discovered by A.S. Meek would be nice. Enjoy your day.
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Post by nomihoudai on Aug 13, 2013 13:50:58 GMT -8
Two guesses for a museum, two times wrong I will not go that far, only to the museum in Karlsruhe, nevertheless one of the largest collections in Germany and well over 2 million specimen. I wrote down all your suggestions and will see how successful I can be, I hope to see at least a few of them. Nymphalis cyanomelas is actually a nice species and I wonder if any of the numerous Nymphalis collectors was able to get it. The museum also has an extensive Parnassius collection, perhaps there is a good one in there. I already know it will be a busy day, every time I visit one I hurt my back as I keep standing for several hours above the drawers with my camera.
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Post by creobroter on Aug 13, 2013 19:07:19 GMT -8
any actias, attacus, anisota, citheronia, papillio glaucus, antheraea, darapsa, hyles, or samia are good
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Post by nomihoudai on Aug 14, 2013 7:32:05 GMT -8
It was a great day. I didn't take any pictures of moth, but I may do this for an updated version of the game I am working on. I saw several special and rare specimen, I wonder who knows what this butterfly is:
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Post by gauthier on Aug 14, 2013 8:35:42 GMT -8
Maybe a hybrid O. priamus poseidon x T. oblongomaculatus ?
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Post by Adam Cotton on Aug 14, 2013 9:59:41 GMT -8
Yes, definitely a Troides x Ornithoptera hybrid.
Adam.
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Post by nomihoudai on Aug 14, 2013 10:30:36 GMT -8
Gauthier is very close to the answer written on the label in the museum. The label said T. oblongomaculatus x O. priamus priamus, and it said that it was a natural hybrid. I don't know if this is possible as I don't know the ranges of both species. Furthermore I don't know where this specimen came from as it was not possible to me to decipher the hand written label.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Aug 14, 2013 10:46:44 GMT -8
If it is a natural hybrid T. oblongomaculatus x O. priamus priamus then it would come from Ceram or Ambon.
There have been many artificial hybrids made between Troides and Ornithoptera in the past years, I think many were made by Detani in Bali.
Adam.
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