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Post by rumina on Dec 18, 2013 14:29:39 GMT -8
hei guys, about Hepialidae here in Italy we have a very particular species (Italian endemic), Pharmacis claudiae. This species is restricted to the north western alps (Piedmont and Valle d'aosta) and look very beautiful. see for more info and photo the web site Leps.it.
A friend of mine, two years ago, gave me a box of these (at the moment in freezer), all capture in one night... incredible.....
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Post by homard on Dec 19, 2013 0:35:22 GMT -8
hei guys, about Hepialidae here in Italy Dear Rumina, So you're from Italy? Great! My Facebook contacts from Italy have prooved themselves useless, unfortunately, for my aims. Perhaps with you I'll achieve some success?  I'll PM you. |
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Post by vgashtarov on Dec 19, 2013 0:55:37 GMT -8
Hi Rumina, This is Hepialidae material I have got recently from a good friend from your country - Pharmacis carna ([Denis and Schifermüller], 1775) closely related to Pharmacis claudiae Kristal and Hirneisen,1994.Amazing materials. This is very interesting genus to me. Another interesting species Pharmacis anselminae (Teobaldelli, 1977) - female has not well developed wings.    |
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Post by rumina on Dec 19, 2013 7:30:16 GMT -8
hello vgashtarov, Ph. Carna is pretty common to me. I've collected several last year. Strangely, it was the first time that we caught them in moderate quantities despite having already done hunts in that period. The area was M. Novegno, in the mountains of the Veneto (a mountain that I'm studying for two years and who continually gives us satisfaction). ph. anselminae is definitely a species more difficult to find. I personally have never seen or even live in the collection. leps.it is described in the area of Pila (Aosta), a fantastic valley famous among other things for the Euchloe Simplonia, there is very common.
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Post by vgashtarov on Dec 19, 2013 7:41:10 GMT -8
hello vgashtarov, Ph. Carna is pretty common to me. I've collected several last year. Strangely, it was the first time that we caught them in moderate quantities despite having already done hunts in that period. The area was M. Novegno, in the mountains of the Veneto (a mountain that I'm studying for two years and who continually gives us satisfaction). ph. anselminae is definitely a species more difficult to find. I personally have never seen or even live in the collection. leps.it is described in the area of Pila (Aosta), a fantastic valley famous among other things for the Euchloe Simplonia, there is very common. Hello Rumina, Yes I can suppose that P. carna is a common species in Italy, it is found also in Romania. I suppose it can be found in Bulgaria as well. Unfortunately up to now I never found it nor it has visit my UV traps in the mountains  . Perhaps the right place must be found..and the right time. |
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Post by rumina on Dec 19, 2013 7:48:10 GMT -8
the mountain where I found them is quite moist and rich in vegetation. I found them at about 900 meters above sea level, if I remember correctly towards the middle of June (but I have to check).
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Post by vgashtarov on Dec 19, 2013 8:00:05 GMT -8
Next year I will try to search them here. Lovely place, habitat also of Hepialus humili, lots of Erebia, Pollyomatus eroides and Colias caucasica balcanica.    |
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Post by rumina on Dec 19, 2013 8:03:23 GMT -8
hi Homard, I'm sorry but I do not use facebook ..................... I am a kind original .................... you said you had contacts with Italian researchers? our entomological community is not very large, certainly know them or I've heard.
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Post by rumina on Dec 19, 2013 8:14:19 GMT -8
oh my god............. Where is this paradise? Pirin Mountain? I know that C. Caucasica is not widespread from you. certain a site that contains P.eroides, Caucasica and Erebia, I suppose rhodopensis and ephiphron, well worth a visit.
the place, however, is identical to the one where I found the Ph. Carna, the same vegetation. a very similar environment you will also find in the Dolomites (mountain of lagorai.
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Post by rumina on Dec 19, 2013 8:16:31 GMT -8
just another thing, do not worry if you have too many Caucasica .......................... I may be interest ..............
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Post by vgashtarov on Dec 19, 2013 8:37:11 GMT -8
This is Rila mountains, about 1850 - 1900 m. C.c. balcanica is very local species,not easy to catch also and is very protected species. The Erebias : ligea, euryale, orientalis, pronoe, ottomana, from time to time melas, but melas is more high species, it prefer stones and slopes.
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Post by rumina on Dec 19, 2013 8:48:06 GMT -8
thank you vgashtarov. I didn't know that C.c balcanica was protected. the erebia list is very interesting.
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Post by vgashtarov on Dec 19, 2013 11:27:57 GMT -8
I think that protected by law are next species:
Perisomena caecigena
Parnasius apollo
Erebia rhodopensis
Colias caucasica balcanica
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Post by homard on Dec 19, 2013 23:44:30 GMT -8
Next year I will try to search them here. Lovely place, habitat also of Hepialus humili, lots of Erebia, Pollyomatus eroides and Colias caucasica balcanica. Hello Victor, Gorgeous places you've got there! BTW I replied your PM a few days ago, please check your mailbox here! I checked my stock and found a few Korscheltellus lupulinus, one Triodia sylvina, and one male of Hepialus humuli from alpine meadows of Caucasus (sic - like in Bulgaria!) I have no use for them and could give you in exchange for interesting Arctiidae. hi Homard, I'm sorry but I do not use facebook ..................... I am a kind original .................... you said you had contacts with Italian researchers? our entomological community is not very large, certainly know them or I've heard. Rumina: Please check your mailbox here, I wrote you |
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Post by rumina on Dec 20, 2013 3:22:55 GMT -8
hi Homard, my butterflies mail are rumina@tiscali.it (................only for you.............)
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I'll PM you.
. Perhaps the right place must be found..and the right time. 
