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Post by oehlkew on Dec 19, 2013 13:44:54 GMT -8
Hi JMG, It is useful to have precise dates as I process the images, as I usually try to incorporate species name, gender, location, date, elevation, and initials of photographer into the name of the image as I post it. For instance when I copy the above image, I will name it AutomeriszuganamaleCalderonEsmeraldasEcuadorDecember62013100mjmg.jpg as it is an Automeris zugana male, taken in Calderon, Esmeraldas, Ecuador, on December 6, 2013, at elevation of 100m by JMG. This also helps as I place the caption below the image, and it helps very much to distinguish the image from other zugana images, in case I ever want to find it again amongst the over 10,000 Saturniidae images on WLSS. I use pretty much the same format for all images and it greatly simplifies my record keeping and postings as it avoids duplication of images. Bill Oehlke Thanks again for sharing.
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Post by lepidofrance on Dec 19, 2013 14:49:05 GMT -8
Hello Bill ! I do agree ! As said in another topic on this forum : "I do prefer a sample or/and a photo with complete data than a beautiful A1 sample lacking acurate data". I'm just coming back from Ecuador. To find out the dates, I have to check within more than a thousand photos that I have to search inside the camera (because, and this is a bad point for Apple, when you transfer the pictures from the camera to the iPad computer, the shown dates are not those of the shouting but transfer dates !!! Same thing if you modify the photo). All the right data will appear soon on this webpage (Saturniidae and other Heterocera families) : picasaweb.google.com/113703781091091595078/HeteroceresEquateur2013?noredirect=1I should be glad if any of these photos will be of some interest for you ! Here a picture of the Choco Forest nearby the Tunda Loma Lodge (Calderon, Esmeraldas) ; the clearing is truly a very good spot especially for Parides (several species) : Attachment DeletedWarm regards, JMG
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Post by nomad on Dec 20, 2013 6:51:04 GMT -8
Was you by any chance in the field with Robert?
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Post by lepidofrance on Dec 20, 2013 8:01:21 GMT -8
Sorry, I was not with Robert ! We were three lepidopterists, Pierre and Jean-Claude (and I), both specialists of the Andean Fauna. They manage the website : www.sangay.eu/index.php?lang=enand soon a second website on Butterflies of the Cotacachi-Cayapas Reserve.
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Post by lepidofrance on Dec 20, 2013 10:06:55 GMT -8
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Post by oehlkew on Dec 20, 2013 12:23:01 GMT -8
Thanks, The Rhescyntis hippodamia is subspecies colombiana. Very nice image of female R. h. c. Bill Oehlke
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Post by oehlkew on Dec 21, 2013 5:46:55 GMT -8
I have posted all Saturniidae to WLSS in respective files, and feel the identifications are correct, except for the one I identified as possibly Syssphinx bidens. Bidens was originally described in Venezuela, so its presence in western Ecuador is a bit of a surprise. Horst Kaech has indicated to me that bidens flies in western Ecuador, but that is based on an image of a female, which may prove to be jasonoides.
Syssphinx jasonoides was originally described in southwestern Ecuador so perhaps your moth is jasonoides or something not as yet described. If you can send me an image once this specimen comes off the boards, that would be great. It may be just the angle of the photograph that is making the forewing apices seem less acute than I would expect for S. jasonoides.
I have also just sent you a private message.
Bill Oehlke
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Post by lepidofrance on Dec 22, 2013 2:50:44 GMT -8
Here is a photo from the same bidens/ jasonoides. Just the underside : the moth is dry and I can't open it. Collected in Tunda Loma Lodge, Calderon, Esmeraldas, December 7. Hoping it will help. Thank you so much for WLSS ! All the best, JMG Attachment DeletedAttachment Deleted
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Post by oehlkew on Mar 30, 2014 2:55:46 GMT -8
Images 8 and 9 are more likely recently described Dirphia carchensis whose specimen type is from Carchi. I was creating (yesterday and this morning, March 30, 2014) new files for the Saturniidae described from Ecuador in May 2013 edition of Entomo-Satsphingia journal, and see that carchensis has a darker forewing pm area and is taken at higher elevations than the "whiter" apeggyae. Dirphia apeggyae, first described in 2011, was best match for your images until Dirphia carchensis was described. Bill Oehlke
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Post by oehlkew on Mar 30, 2014 2:56:29 GMT -8
Images 8 and 9 are more likely recently described Dirphia carchensis whose specimen type is from Carchi. I was creating (yesterday and this morning, March 30, 2014) new files for the Saturniidae described from Ecuador in May 2013 edition of Entomo-Satsphingia journal, and see that carchensis has a darker forewing pm area and is taken at higher elevations than the "whiter" apeggyae. Dirphia apeggyae, first described in 2011, was best match for your images until Dirphia carchensis was described. Bill Oehlke
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Post by lepidofrance on Mar 31, 2014 13:18:10 GMT -8
Many thanks about the D. carchensis ID ! About the TL, note that La Carolina (on the map) = El Limonal. We collected along the trail El Limonal - Gualchan - Chical, but only butterflies. Nevertheless, Automeris abdomipichinchensis BRECHLIN & MEISTER, 2011 (number 14) was observed on the same road around 1900 m asl. Thank you so much !
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