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Post by beetlehorn on Apr 13, 2018 11:01:18 GMT -8
Here in America it is rather the same. There are a few species that are strictly protected such as Papilio aristodemus ssp. ponceanus. The loss of habitat and mosquito spraying in Florida has led to the critically low numbers. Then there is Speyeria idalia, which deserves protection, but habitat restoration is what it truly requires to get populations back up to acceptable levels, especially east of the Mississippi river. I am happy to see that France has enough consideration for a butterfly species such as Parnassius apollo to stop further construction. This is the common sense approach that is needed worldwide. As I have stated before....."It's not the butterfly nets that are the problem for a species, it is the bulldozers and chainsaws that are the real threat". I see it here as well, as time goes on, the chipping away of habitat for yet another subdivision, or shopping mall has taken a great toll. Money is a powerful adversary.
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Post by phanaeus1 on Apr 13, 2018 19:28:47 GMT -8
phanaeus1 Yes, the"greenies.tree huggers and so called radical environmentalists"living here in Northern California ive met quite a few and yes,generally most seem to abhor collecting of anything they feel protective of and this often goes along with a lack of knowledge of the specifics i.e. the names of insects(as an example) their foodplants,life cycles.habitats,how they interact with other life forms(as either food and/or prey ETC.There is so often a sentimentilized/romanticized view of" Nature' but seemingly little vital interest in its particulars, leading to a lot of political grandstanding but very little hands on experience or personal interaction/deep interest in the life forms they give so much lip service to protecting, yet so many of them are quite content to drive their pollution producing autos around,buy lots of stuff from Large corporations(while telling us this is wrong) and incarnate children as often as they please and the Majority of" The Protective Minded" cannot/willnot tolerate the use of the"O-Word"= Over Population/ and will change the subject Immediately to more" manageable topics" like solar energy or wind power while turning a deaf ear to the increasingly hard-to-ignore negative effects that 7 billion+ people are creating on this planet i.e. we will invent our way out of the mess we invented ourselves into and only a mistaken or negative person will use the "O Word" and persist in thinking its a problem, as its much more Politically Correct to blame the net wielders.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 1:06:08 GMT -8
There is a saying that an empty vessel makes the most noise, in my experience that's true of the people in charge of conservation bodies here in the UK.
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Post by phanaeus1 on Apr 14, 2018 22:46:08 GMT -8
phanaeus1 Yes, Spring is making itself apparent!Early morning at about 3A.M.awoke Quickly out of sound sleep by Very Uncomfortable Sensation in my groin area,it felt as if i was laying on top of a moving hard bristle hair brush assaulting my private parts,while my cat "Pinky" who sleeps next to me was sitting up and watching me intently,I rolled out of bed in great haste and suprise,pulled my pajama bottoms down, as a great pain arose from my testicular area( causing much concern)a rapid inventory of the pubic region bore witness to an Extra Large(75mm.?)and Very ANGRY 'Potato Bug/Jerusalem cricket or more scientifically: a Stenopelmatus, tantruming in my"curlies", enthusiastically using its powerfull and very spiny back legs to punish my reproductive organ, also accompanied by rapid and repetitive chewing from its powerfull mandibles.I found this very unpleasant(there was a certain amount of swearing and yelping involved)as i ran to the bathroom,grabbed a pair of bandage scissors and gave myself a frenzied trim job to free the trapped ground cricket from its intimate entanglement, where it fell to the ground and crawled behind the toilet,it was swept up into a dust pan and released into the garden unharmed while i bathed my offended privates with Bactine and shuddered.I think i know who the "responsible party" was, as every Spring Pinky captures these emotionally volatile and very alien looking critters and proudly brings them into the house(somehow without injury to herself.Yes,Spring Is Here!
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Post by beetlehorn on Apr 15, 2018 15:24:16 GMT -8
At one time I had a small collection from Germany that I had put together during the 1970's. It consisted of more or less common species such as Inachus io, Aglais urticae, Nymphalis polychloros, Nymphalis antiopa, Limenitis camilla, ans L. populi, Apatura iris and A. ilia, Papilio machaon, Dira maera and Dira megera, Maniola jurtina, Melanargia galathea, Anthocharis cardamines, Colias hyale and several others. That collection is long gone now due to dermestids, and my lack of attention, (what a shame!). I know these are not highly prized by collectors, nor are they of much monetary value, but to me each specimen had a memory attached to it, so I was heart-broken to find my European collection completely destroyed. Even now after so many years I am still saddened by the thought of losing my collection, because I know it can never be replaced. It would be nice to re-visit some of the places I once collected, at least before I die. That is why I started this thread. Thanks to all who have shared your information.
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Post by Paul K on Apr 15, 2018 16:55:07 GMT -8
I have 4 drawers of butterflies and moths collected in mid '80 in Poland when I was a young boy and teenager. I recently replaced old rusted pins for stainless steel pins and re-spread all specimens one more time, new labels replaced old one with not so detailed data. Those butterflies are priceless for me as I have many good memories attached to them.
Beetlehorn, I totally understand your sorrow and you should definitely organize collecting trip there to refresh your memories. I wish to do this too one more time in my lifetime.
Paul
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Post by wollastoni on Apr 16, 2018 0:46:34 GMT -8
At one time I had a small collection from Germany that I had put together during the 1970's. It consisted of more or less common species such as Inachus io, Aglais urticae, Nymphalis polychloros, Nymphalis antiopa, Limenitis camilla, ans L. populi, Apatura iris and A. ilia, Papilio machaon, Dira maera and Dira megera, Maniola jurtina, Melanargia galathea, Anthocharis cardamines, Colias hyale and several others. That collection is long gone now due to dermestids, and my lack of attention, (what a shame!). I know these are not highly prized by collectors, nor are they of much monetary value, but to me each specimen had a memory attached to it, so I was heart-broken to find my European collection completely destroyed. Even now after so many years I am still saddened by the thought of losing my collection, because I know it can never be replaced. It would be nice to re-visit some of the places I once collected, at least before I die. That is why I started this thread. Thanks to all who have shared your information. Yes, you should visit these places again. If they are still in good state, it will be a great day. BTW you say they were common species, but I've never met Limenitis populi in about 30 years of collecting ! Congrats for having found it !
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Post by mijas on Feb 9, 2023 10:14:34 GMT -8
Hi Paul, Do you have a website address for the Polish insect forum please? Cheers, Mijas
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