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Post by exoticimports on Aug 8, 2018 8:03:04 GMT -8
I'm not a big fan of catocala, but you get what one can. I can't even tell you the names off the top of my head or if I show three species or four or more.
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Post by rayrard on Aug 8, 2018 8:33:55 GMT -8
NEW up to 8/7/18 were from Larry Gall tree tapping and my trip looking for Herodias up in the mountains of NW CT. I failed to rediscover the ridgetop herodias, but found 6 Catocala sp. Larry had a very good tapping experience that I had to miss because of car issues.
North Haven tapping
Catocala ilia C. nebulosa - second this year C. palaeogama C. ultronia C. lineella C. relicta - 1 C. innubens C. obscura C. habilis C. judith C. retecta
Canaan Mtn Catocala ilia - 3 C. lineella - 1 C. micronympha - 1 worn C. habilis - 1 C. epione - 1 C. coccinata - 1 worn
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Post by rayrard on Aug 8, 2018 8:34:55 GMT -8
Updating the original list
Catocala amica C. lineella C. connubialis C. blandula C. andromedae C. ilia C. micronympha C. ultronia C. coccinata C. innubens C. neogama C. nebulosa - now 2 separate sight records this year and one last year. C. sordida C. maestosa - 2 CT records C. palaeogama C. vidua C. obscura C. relicta C. habilis C. judith C. retecta C. epione
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Post by Jonn on Aug 8, 2018 11:38:29 GMT -8
I went tree tapping for a few hours in the NE part of the county yesterday and saw lots of ilia, maestosa & vidua. Also 1 lacrymosa. This is the first time i saw lacrymosa/vidua tree tapping and also first time seeing a species tree tapping before catching it by bait.
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Post by LEPMAN on Aug 8, 2018 11:46:19 GMT -8
I still haven’t caught any North American Catocala but thought I would share these Chinese species! pin.it/uocwbxolfnt3vo
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Post by Jonn on Aug 8, 2018 12:23:11 GMT -8
I'm not a big fan of catocala, but you get what one can. I can't even tell you the names off the top of my head or if I show three species or four or more. I'm seeing 5 species in the picture if that's what you're asking. All on the right are subnata. Bottom left is palaeogama, next one up looks like habilis. Small one i can't see very well but could be grynea & the top looks like retecta/luctuosa.
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Post by rayrard on Aug 8, 2018 21:33:46 GMT -8
Jonn, are you now on iNaturalist? I see someone by that name who appears to know their Catocala by your same name on there. I am on there as rayray
I seem to have difficulty with neogama versus subnata from pictures. Subnata in person seems more distinctive. The second one down seemed "neogama" to me and the other ones are more subnata like, but the sizes are the opposite of what I'd expect (subnata is a bigger species)
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Post by Jonn on Aug 9, 2018 6:30:28 GMT -8
Jonn, are you now on iNaturalist? I see someone by that name who appears to know their Catocala by your same name on there. I am on there as rayray I seem to have difficulty with neogama versus subnata from pictures. Subnata in person seems more distinctive. The second one down seemed "neogama" to me and the other ones are more subnata like, but the sizes are the opposite of what I'd expect (subnata is a bigger species) Yeah that's me and i know that's you on there also lol. I believe the second one down is a female subnata while the other three are males. I usually can tell them apart but some of the worn individuals are confusing me a bit female subnata: v3.boldsystems.org/pics/ABCNA/IMG_2058%2B1160411870.JPG
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Post by exoticimports on Aug 9, 2018 9:44:30 GMT -8
I identify catocala by color. Those i pictured are orange. The pink ones should come out soon. I like the white ones.
Ignorance can be blissful.
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Post by fishnbugz on Aug 9, 2018 21:58:00 GMT -8
I put 10 traps out tonight to see if I could come up with anything new, but didn't catch much and no new species. I did get 4 real nice nuptialis and a female moon-lined moth Spiloloma. Every night it's dropping into the low 60's so moth activity isn't quite what it usually is here in August.
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Post by bugboys3 on Aug 12, 2018 5:54:45 GMT -8
Set up the lights in the back yard Friday because there have been several Luna moth sightings in the area this week. No A. luna or anything else big, but there were several Catocalas. I kept C. habilis, paleogama, serena, and left the neogama, ultronia, obscura and judith. The moth of the night for me was a nice Euparthenos nubilis (Locust Underwing). I have several specimens from Arizona, but had never seen one in Wisconsin before.
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Post by mothman27 on Aug 12, 2018 9:16:01 GMT -8
Seven Catocala in the trap today. Also a Nice male luna at the porch light, I think this is the latest in the year that I have collected a luna moth. I had two strange amatrix with a color gradient of orange and pink on the hindwings. One specimen especially in the right hindwing 1st specimen 2nd specimen
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Post by leptraps on Aug 12, 2018 11:56:57 GMT -8
Post a photograph of your small moth. I am positive someone can identify it.
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Post by leptraps on Aug 12, 2018 12:18:56 GMT -8
Catocala amatrix can be somewhat variable. Visit the species page on Moth Photographer's Group 8834. Although not spread specimens it illustrates the variability of the species.
When I checked my Bait Traps yesterday, I had several in each trap. I also collect a Catocala parta and several Catocala unijuga during my weekly trip to the Morgan Monroe SF and Yellowwood SF in a Light Trap (9 August 2018).
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Post by leptraps on Aug 12, 2018 12:47:39 GMT -8
I also have trouble with hundreds of flies in the trap after one day that ruin any butterflies quickly. And if they are not removed before nightfall the number of moths is lower or they are worn. How do you combat this? It is a pain to remove them all. Has anyone buit a small trapdoor on the top of the trap so as to let the flies out when needed? I will tell you how to let the flies out of your traps. In the center of the top of your trap, cut a 2 inch square hole and sew in a 3 inch square piece of 1/4 inch metal screen in the center. If you are like me and like the smaller moths, they will also escape the trap thru the screen. If you place your traps within the forest and out of the direct sun light you will get fewer flies. However, for some reason, most butterflies will find the bait and the trap. Should you live in the country and really want to see a trap full of flies, and I mean full, hang it next to a pasture of cows. When I first began to use Bait Traps in the late 1970's, I would carry a can of Raid Insecticide. I would remove all the Lep's and spray the flies, hornets and wasps with the remained in the trap.It did not fix the damage that they did to the Lep's, but it made me feel like I got some justice. The joys of collecting!!
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