goat
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Post by goat on Sept 29, 2018 12:54:05 GMT -8
Does anyone know any differences between ornithoptera meridionalis meridionalis and ornithoptera meridionalis tarunggarensis?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 21:20:19 GMT -8
Anatomically......can't help you. There is very little taxonomic difference between the two as i understand it. O. m. m. Is from SE Papua New Guinae (east side) while O. m. t. Is from western PNG which is really Irian Jaya (west side). When last I read on this, there were none of these found in the vast middle region of the area. I am no expert w these, but thought I'd share my take on them.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Sept 29, 2018 23:18:29 GMT -8
I changed the subject line to attract the attention of birdwing experts who may be able to help.
Adam.
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Post by jhyatt on Sept 30, 2018 6:28:50 GMT -8
I seem to recall reading somewhere (Haugum & Low??) that the males are pretty much identical, and the differences in adults lie in the females. But I can't seem to find the passage again at the moment.
jh
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Post by nomad on Sept 30, 2018 6:42:39 GMT -8
According to G. Deslisle J.P. Sclavo in Outstanding Birdwing Butterflies (2015) there are no real differences, small populations of meridionalis being found right across New Guinea. I believe the problem here was that tarunggarensis was described by just two females collected by the Pratts in 1921 without a proper series being examined, the male not being known.
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