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Post by yorky on Feb 23, 2021 3:50:26 GMT -8
Won't let me post the antiopa side by side
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Post by trehopr1 on Feb 23, 2021 7:21:31 GMT -8
Thank you Yorkie for trying to post both N. antiopa together !
I have the shots you have posted of your specimens nonetheless but, I appreciate the effort.
Bravo, on your good fortune !
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Post by yorky on Feb 23, 2021 8:08:19 GMT -8
Here is another one of mine, a beautiful Papilio machaon Attachments:
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Post by leptraps on Feb 23, 2021 8:44:20 GMT -8
leptraps, Normal specimens aren't worth much, these are artificially induced aberrations being sold on eBay. Adam. That is sort of what I thought. I would rather have the real McCoy. |
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Post by trehopr1 on Feb 23, 2021 9:00:50 GMT -8
Wow, that is indeed a very nice find.
Is that an auction acquired item or a little something
found at one of your nice fairs ?
*You also have me wondering if you have ever acquired
any vintage “ natural occurring” abbs. amongst your
stock of P. machaon brittanicus ?
May we see some pic’s if you have those abbs.
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Post by yorky on Feb 23, 2021 9:07:40 GMT -8
I have a friend who breeds these abberations, he is superb at it, the machaon came from him. All of my machaon britannicus are pretty uniform I'm afraid, most are historic therefore irreplaceable but no abberations.
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Post by kevinkk on Feb 23, 2021 9:10:05 GMT -8
Always interesting.
With the io, how would a person even identify the species, looking so much different?
The others, I can see they could be identified.
Let me guess- it's captive breeding and not wild caught, it seems like otherwise, you'd
need to do some anatomical identification.
About machaeon- I thought that was protected in the UK, or was the book I read that old?
And it was old.
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Post by yorky on Feb 23, 2021 11:12:26 GMT -8
Yes it is protected now but all of my specimens are pre 1955 so before protective legislation.
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Post by kevinkk on Feb 23, 2021 11:42:03 GMT -8
Yes it is protected now but all of my specimens are pre 1955 so before protective legislation. The book I read actually ties in a tiny bit with aberrations. It was a general book about one person's experiences, anyway, he was collecting, and even being protected intended to net a machaeon while nobody was looking, while there in the field, he spotted a nymphalid, I don't recall the species, and netted it, dispatched it, then he said he saw 2 angry men running towards him and assumed they had been after the same butterfly. Years later, the author was at a conference and overheard the same 2 guys talking about studying living aberrations of this nymphalid, they were telling someone a story about spotting one, and before they could catch it, some kid came along and killed it. |
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