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Post by exoticimports on Feb 12, 2021 5:00:09 GMT -8
My post of specimens from San Christobal updated with ID. Some are "probable" because the island is poorly surveyed and a couple could be unidentified SSP but until then they are ID as the described form.
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Euploea
Feb 12, 2021 6:04:05 GMT -8
Post by lordpandarus on Feb 12, 2021 6:04:05 GMT -8
Thanks. H. exiguus looks like a ssp. of H. deois. I have this one from Yapen Island that looks similar .Anyone know what it is? Ps can you take a pic of H.exiguus Male alone?  |
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Post by exoticimports on Feb 12, 2021 6:58:18 GMT -8
I'd rather we start a separate thread on Nymphalidae than derail this fine thread on Euploea.
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Euploea
Feb 12, 2021 7:44:28 GMT -8
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Post by Paul K on Feb 12, 2021 7:44:28 GMT -8
What a fine example of Müllerian mimicry, San Cristobal must be a very interesting island to research. Your material is very important to science, as there is a very little info on line in regards these subspecies.
Thanks for sharing Chuck.
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Post by lordpandarus on Feb 12, 2021 7:54:17 GMT -8
Euploea configurata from Sulawesi  |
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Post by lordpandarus on Feb 12, 2021 8:00:32 GMT -8
Euploea sylvester harrisii? Vietnam  |
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Post by Paul K on Feb 12, 2021 8:20:05 GMT -8
Euploea coreThis is perhaps the most widespread and common species of this genus. It can be observed in most of habitats in large numbers. Euploea core godartii inhabits most of Indochina. Top male, bottom female - Koh Tao, Thailand  Euploea core godartiiThis is the dark form intermediate with ssp. graminifera
top male, bottom female - Koh Tao, Thailand  Euploea core graminifera
This subspecies occurs in Malay Peninsula top male, bottom female - Koh Tao, Thailand  Euploea core layardi
Male - Phin Distict, Savannakhet Prov., SE Laos 
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Euploea
Feb 12, 2021 8:21:41 GMT -8
Post by Paul K on Feb 12, 2021 8:21:41 GMT -8
Euploea sylvester harrisii? Yes, female. |
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Euploea
Feb 12, 2021 9:05:15 GMT -8
Post by exoticimports on Feb 12, 2021 9:05:15 GMT -8
What a fine example of Müllerian mimicry, San Cristobal must be a very interesting island to research. Your material is very important to science, as there is a very little info on line in regards these subspecies. Thanks for sharing Chuck. The research is barely started, and Makira is a difficult place to get to and very rustic. Examples of my Euploea are already with BMNH, McGuire, and a few in AMNH. |
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Post by Paul K on Feb 12, 2021 10:59:36 GMT -8
E.core was the last species that I have had chance to collect during my stay in Thailand and Laos.
I’m still missing few species that inhabit these two countries.
Hopefully travel restrictions will easing soon so I could go back and continue to look for other Euploea.
In meanwhile I look forward to see other members contribution to this thread.
I want to thank trehopr1 to initiate this topic.
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Euploea
Feb 12, 2021 11:58:26 GMT -8
Post by Adam Cotton on Feb 12, 2021 11:58:26 GMT -8
It is strange that 3 different forms/ssp. of Euploea core occur on Koh Tao. For those who don't know, it is an island in the Gulf of Thailand not very far from the holiday island, Koh Samui (Koh means 'island' in Thai). When I have a chance I will ask Yutaka Inayoshi his opinion about that.
Euploea core is probably the commonest species in Thailand, and ever occurs in Bangkok. It feeds on cultivated oleander plants as well as natural food plants. Here in Chiang Mai we only have the form with pink forewing tips, which is the case in most of Thailand.
Adam.
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Euploea
Feb 12, 2021 13:11:57 GMT -8
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Post by Paul K on Feb 12, 2021 13:11:57 GMT -8
It is strange that 3 different forms/ssp. of Euploea core occur on Koh Tao. For those who don't know, it is an island in the Gulf of Thailand not very far from the holiday island, Koh Samui (Koh means 'island' in Thai). When I have a chance I will ask Yutaka Inayoshi his opinion about that. Euploea core is probably the commonest species in Thailand, and ever occurs in Bangkok. It feeds on cultivated oleander plants as well as natural food plants. Here in Chiang Mai we only have the form with pink forewing tips, which is the case in most of Thailand. Adam. I discussed with Yutaka Inayoshi about E.core on Koh Tao and other locations on few occasions, once I collected some material for DNA and mistakenly sent it to him via post from Canada, unfortunately the package never arrived to final destination. As we talked before Koh Tao is very interesting place. Koh Phangan which is located only 30 km south of Koh Tao doesn’t have such mixed butterfly fauna from two separate zones even though a number of species living there is much more higher due to larger area and different type of primary forests. |
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Euploea
Feb 13, 2021 5:17:17 GMT -8
Post by Adam Cotton on Feb 13, 2021 5:17:17 GMT -8
Paul K, Did you ever see mating pairs comprising one sex of each subspecies, godartii and graminifera, or even a male of one actively courting a female of the other? Adam.
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Euploea
Feb 13, 2021 10:19:57 GMT -8
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Post by Paul K on Feb 13, 2021 10:19:57 GMT -8
Paul K, Did you ever see mating pairs comprising one sex of each subspecies, godartii and graminifera, or even a male of one actively courting a female of the other? Adam. That is a good question. Honestly I didn’t pay attention to that and I should. |
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Euploea
Feb 13, 2021 12:16:08 GMT -8
Post by trehopr1 on Feb 13, 2021 12:16:08 GMT -8
I have really enjoyed this topic throughout !
Lots of wonderful specimen/species photographs and information.
Also, a pretty descent involvement of members in the thread.
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