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Post by kevinkk on Feb 20, 2021 16:59:06 GMT -8
I had discussions with a woman. I explained to her that the spiders alone eat more insects each year than all humans put together, 180 million tons. And every insect dies a terrible death. Besides that, there are still birds, bats and other insects. Great astonishment! Yes but you kill the butterflies! Yes, the attacus don't eat at all, live a few days and then die, happy when they mate. And then you are not allowed to drive a car, not to eat certain things, well, actually you are not allowed to live if you don't want to kill insects. People just don't know how the world works. As well as many insects, like moths and beetles lay eggs before they meet a demise, what ever that is. I've never had a gravid wild female lay as many eggs as captive stock, clearly eggs were laid before capture. |
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Post by bandrow on Feb 20, 2021 19:28:16 GMT -8
Bandrow, show us some pictures of your Florida Keys cerambycids. I only have a phone camera at home, but I'll see if I can get a few images of some of the bigger/showier stuff. It will be some good examples of a unit-trayed collection as well, as is being discussed in another thread. Coming soon... Cheers! Bandrow |
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Post by Chris Grinter on Feb 21, 2021 11:29:31 GMT -8
Words of advice from a lifetime of collecting: 1 - My one overriding rule - be discrete. Even in developing countries, I would not collect along a roadside frequented by the public. 2 - Respect the view points of others. You may not agree with them, but as an opinion, their view is just as likely to be valid as is your view. 3 - Don't lie about what what you are doing. Don't lie period. But be able to explain why you think what you are doing is a valid and ethical activity. I've been collecting insects for almost 50 years now, and only once have I had a totally negative experience (on Big Pine Key, on the side of Highway 1, net in hand, collecting a big pretty butterfly off a flower). I violated rule #1 and had not yet figured out rules 2 and 3. Since then - no problems. John The Keys were also the place where I had a nasty run in along the highway 15+ years ago! A woman accosted me, took photos of me, and said I'd be going to prison for killing butterflies  . You're right that it invites trouble when you're on the side of a road, especially when you're in Glassberg army territory. But it's also nearly impossible to find a spot to collect in the Keys without permits. I've done lots of collecting out west in State Parks, reserves, public areas (with permits when necessary), and people 100% of the time have been fascinated and interested in what I'm doing. Usually they get bored when I say I'm looking for small day flying moths. I think it's a great opportunity to educate someone on why you're out there collecting, every once in a while you really get someone who wants to know more! Where in California was the nasty run-in? |
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Post by bandrow on Feb 21, 2021 16:12:00 GMT -8
Bandrow, show us some pictures of your Florida Keys cerambycids. Hi All, I posted some images of the Cerambycidae I collected in the Keys during the 90's over in the "Show Your Favorite Specimen" forum - seemed more appropriate than here... Cheers! Bandrow |
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. You're right that it invites trouble when you're on the side of a road, especially when you're in Glassberg army territory. But it's also nearly impossible to find a spot to collect in the Keys without permits. I've done lots of collecting out west in State Parks, reserves, public areas (with permits when necessary), and people 100% of the time have been fascinated and interested in what I'm doing. Usually they get bored when I say I'm looking for small day flying moths. I think it's a great opportunity to educate someone on why you're out there collecting, every once in a while you really get someone who wants to know more!