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Post by africaone on Mar 8, 2021 5:32:11 GMT -8
I keep a drawer of Goliathus for displays at educational events. This assembly started about 1976, and the latest specimen added last year, so it was a very long, patient search. Thanks Paul and Fred. Yes.....most of them were from my importing years in the 90s and 00s. The last one I got was a female of G. albosignatus albosignathus abt ten years ago...... What size pins did you use for your Goliathus specimens? #6? #7? size 7 is not possible in all frame ... |
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Post by exoticimports on Mar 8, 2021 7:44:25 GMT -8
I use size 6
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Post by Paul K on Mar 8, 2021 8:42:53 GMT -8
So I suppose they are fitting in regular height drawers ( inside 46mm ) |
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Post by livingplanet3 on Mar 11, 2021 9:59:24 GMT -8
What size pins did you use for your Goliathus specimens? #6? #7? Good question, also how tall is the largest specimen let’s say 90-100mm, would it fit in 6cm drawer, inner height 46mm. BTW Paradox is producing another size stainless steel pins: 7s of 45mm length which they fit into standard European size drawers. I’m planing to order these for larger specimens. If someone is interested here is the link www.paradoxinsects.eu/preparation_collecting.phpI used size 7 SS pins. My father used to drill a tiny hole between the legs and glue a cut pin from underneath. Looks great, but one has to use reastats to grab the 1cm or so piece of pin near pinning bottom in order to move the bug....not easy to do and can easily break a leg if not done very carefully. I’ll have look up how long they are, but I’m pretty sure they’re standard charted size 7 length. What size pins did you use for your Goliathus specimens? #6? #7? size 7 is not possible in all frame ... So I suppose they are fitting in regular height drawers ( inside 46mm ) Many thanks. Good point about the larger pins not fitting in all frames - I will definitely be sure to check the frame depth before mounting any specimens that require large size pins. Although I've been collecting Goliathus for years, I've not yet gotten around to actually pinning any of them yet! I also have some other extra large beetles (Dynastes, Megasoma) that I've not yet pinned either, but need to do so as I plan to put them into wall-mounted displays. I'm actually a bit hesitant about putting pins through them, but I suppose that this really is the only practical and secure means of mounting them, and is why this has been the standard for centuries? Obviously, pinning is a necessity for Lepidoptera. Getting a pin to go through giant Coleoptera such as Goliathus at a nice, straight angle however, likely takes some rather careful positioning, I would think? |
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Post by exoticimports on Mar 11, 2021 11:58:40 GMT -8
You can just hold them in place without pinning through. Keep data on a pin next to the specimen. The risk is the data labels get mixed or lost.
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Post by bandrow on Mar 11, 2021 19:49:56 GMT -8
You can just hold them in place without pinning through. Keep data on a pin next to the specimen. The risk is the data labels get mixed or lost. Greetings, For really big beetles, I often put the data label onto the pin upside-down, and slide it right up against the bottom of the specimen. This way, one can pick up the specimen, invert it, and read the label, and you don't sacrifice any pin length for a label. If you place a label on a pin beside the specimen, it could become dissociated as Chuck says, but one could do both - pin one permanent label onto the specimen pin, and add another beside it - that way even if the stand-alone label gets mixed up, data is preserved with the specimen. Cheers! Bandrow |
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Post by exoticimports on Mar 12, 2021 4:03:08 GMT -8
Bandrow, simple yet excellent idea.
Chuck
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Post by wollastoni on Mar 15, 2021 5:12:48 GMT -8
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Post by Paul K on Mar 15, 2021 5:48:54 GMT -8
Oh, too bad they don’t ship to Canada, it would be a nice specimen to start up Goliathus collection.....just kidding! 😜
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Post by livingplanet3 on Mar 15, 2021 6:08:38 GMT -8
I've seen considerably better specimens of G. atlas offered for considerably less.
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Post by leptraps on Mar 15, 2021 6:14:28 GMT -8
For $5000 USD!! You could travel to the country of origins and actually collect specimens of the creature! And possibly collect more than one!
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Post by africaone on Mar 15, 2021 8:48:35 GMT -8
good luck to get it, it is an hybrid ...  aberation, exceptionnal size or gynandro can't be expected in classic huntings .... and 5000 $ is low to pay a trip in Africa |
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Post by Paul K on Mar 15, 2021 12:08:33 GMT -8
Price is in Euro so it is actually about 6,000USD
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Post by wollastoni on Mar 16, 2021 4:07:04 GMT -8
For $5000 USD!! You could travel to the country of origins and actually collect specimens of the creature! And possibly collect more than one! You don't seem to know Goliathus atlas, Leroy. It is a natural hybrid between cacicus and regius, extremely rare in collection. And one of his parent ( Goliathus cacicus) is nearly extinct due to chocolate companies (Mars, Ferrero...) who have totally destroyed 90% of Ivory Coast forests in few decades to plant cacao. The last specimens I know were sold above $10,000 |
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Post by wollastoni on Mar 16, 2021 4:09:20 GMT -8
I've seen considerably better specimens of G. atlas offered for considerably less. Where ? Please tell me so that I buy them. Last Goliathus atlas I have seen were sold above $10,000 so I would be happy to buy these cheaper specimens to resell them.  |
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