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Post by jhyatt on Mar 26, 2022 5:38:51 GMT -8
Can anyone provide a publication citation for the name Agrias beatifica lachaumei? It seems to be used by some dealers for A. beatifica material from Junin, Peru, but I can't find a source for the name and wonder if it is really legitimate.
Thanks,
John
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Post by livingplanet3 on Mar 26, 2022 6:31:35 GMT -8
I've never been able to find any scientific reference for A. beatifica lachaumei. I suspect that the name isn't actually legitimate, like many of the not officially recognized names given to the numerous forms of Goliathus goliatus by dealers and collectors. For example, this specimen from my collection, which is a form referred to as hieroglyphicus -  |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Mar 26, 2022 10:47:42 GMT -8
I found it straight away with a Google search: Séraphin, G. 2014. Description de deux nouvelles sous-espèces d'Agrias du Pérou (Lepidoptera Nymphalidae Charaxinae Preponi). Antenor 1(1): 107-119. The Google search led me here: species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Agrias_beatifica_lachaumei |
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Post by livingplanet3 on Mar 26, 2022 11:05:03 GMT -8
I found it straight away with a Google search: Séraphin, G. 2014. Description de deux nouvelles sous-espèces d'Agrias du Pérou (Lepidoptera Nymphalidae Charaxinae Preponi). Antenor 1(1): 107-119. The Google search led me here: species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Agrias_beatifica_lachaumeiMany thanks! |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Mar 26, 2022 12:12:39 GMT -8
The journal Antenor is not easy to obtain, but I am sure someone here can help. Otherwise their e-mail is ALEXANOR.RFL at gmail.
Adam.
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Post by hewi on Mar 26, 2022 13:24:19 GMT -8
the second Agrias name published in this article was A. aedon jouberti (p. 115)
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Post by jhyatt on Mar 26, 2022 13:52:04 GMT -8
I found it straight away with a Google search: Séraphin, G. 2014. Description de deux nouvelles sous-espèces d'Agrias du Pérou (Lepidoptera Nymphalidae Charaxinae Preponi). Antenor 1(1): 107-119. The Google search led me here: species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Agrias_beatifica_lachaumeiThanks, Adam! I had done a Google search a few days ago and that didn't turn up in mine... go figure! Wonder if Google answers are selected according to the inquirer, his/her previous searches, etc?
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Post by Adam Cotton on Mar 26, 2022 23:25:25 GMT -8
Strange, perhaps different people get different results depending on their search history. Theoretically it shouldn't make much difference if you search on the relevant words.
Adam.
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Post by nomihoudai on Mar 27, 2022 1:13:40 GMT -8
Wonder if Google answers are selected according to the inquirer, his/her previous searches, etc? John Quote from Google: The results vary a lot based on country. In the last years, for me the quality of search results has degraded a lot. Less and less scientific publications make it to the first page. Also links to search results by Google scholar are appearing less often. |
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Post by jhyatt on Mar 27, 2022 6:44:54 GMT -8
Strange, perhaps different people get different results depending on their search history. Theoretically it shouldn't make much difference if you search on the relevant words. Adam. Of course another possibility is that I mis-typed or misspelled the insect's name. jh |
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Post by wollastoni on Mar 27, 2022 8:40:04 GMT -8
John
The difference between beatifica beata and beatifica lachaumei is very thin... a lot of Agrias collectors consider them to be synonym.
For your info, it is named after Gilbert Lachaume who is the expert of entomological sales in French Auction Houses (the famous French insect auctions in Paris Drouot and Dijon).
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Post by livingplanet3 on Mar 27, 2022 15:49:23 GMT -8
John The difference between beatifica beata and beatifica lachaumei is very thin... a lot of Agrias collectors consider them to be synonym. For your info, it is named after Gilbert Lachaume who is the expert of entomological sales in French Auction Houses (the famous French insect auctions in Paris Drouot and Dijon). Between the early 1980s - early 1990s, Gilbert Lachaume authored some of the volumes in the Les Coléoptères du Monde (The Beetles of the World) series. More comprehensive and up-to-date treatments of the various genera that he and other authors covered in this series have possibly since been produced, but these older books have quite a sentimental value to me. |
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