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Post by simosg on Aug 7, 2011 11:36:43 GMT -8
I’ve recently got an old paradisea male with a repaired forewing. A large missing part of the wing has been repaired with four matching pieces. The repair is perfect, hard to see from above, absolutely flat from both sides, no traces of glue visible. Also it is touched up with a kind of paint or pigments. My repairs are poles apart from this. We have discussed about the kind of glue here several times, but I don’t know a sort of glue, which enables such a good repair. I have seen such repairs for several times, always at older specimens. Seems the former generations of collectors have been better in such things. Can anybody explain how this repair could be made? Hannes Attachments:
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Post by simosg on Aug 7, 2011 11:37:43 GMT -8
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Post by simosg on Aug 7, 2011 11:38:06 GMT -8
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Post by simosg on Aug 7, 2011 11:38:31 GMT -8
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Post by simosg on Aug 7, 2011 11:38:49 GMT -8
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Post by lordpandarus on Aug 7, 2011 13:14:14 GMT -8
I use normal white glue, but it looks like this guy made his repairs with parts from the exact same species
I usually make a repair in a black area for the upperside and use whatever spare wing I have to match the color. Anything with color becomes more complex
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2011 14:56:12 GMT -8
I, too, use normal Elmer's white glue.......but.......I pre-mix it with 50% Isopropyl alcohol. When it evaporates, nearly no glue residue is present and the glue film is incredibly thin. Using this type of glue allows for time to position pieces carefully, whereas super-glue dries too fast  Also, the 'wetness' of the glue with alcohol seems to favor wing pieces coming together as opposed to globy glue that seems to actually repel pieces going together. There is nothing wrong with a nice repair job like the one shown. Sometimes I repair a specimen and other times I just leave it alone. It just depends. Naturally, repairing with the exact same wing part from the same species is ideal, but I do have a spare parts box (actually three or four) that I'll match colors to from other species. |
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Post by simosg on Aug 7, 2011 19:22:45 GMT -8
Isopropyl alcohol is new to me. I this the same material you need as thinner for paint? Can you mix it ahead or have you use it up immediately?
Hannes
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Post by obewan on Aug 7, 2011 19:53:09 GMT -8
Rubbing alcohal?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2011 20:30:12 GMT -8
Yes, it is that cheap bottle of Rubbing Alcohol one can get in every drug/grocery/convenience store. It dillutes the glue nicely and leaves no trace when evaporating except a thin layer of glue holding the wing pieces together. Try it on a junker first, so you are comfortable with it prior to using it on something special.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2011 20:33:22 GMT -8
Oops---I forgot to say that I mix it up and use it whenever I need it. It is kept in an air-tight container. I used to mix up a batch every time and my good friend Beetlehorn suggested I make up a batch and keep it for the future. I am using, today, the batch I made up last winter. Just shake it up and go with it.
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Post by lordpandarus on Aug 8, 2011 1:52:13 GMT -8
I'll try the mixing with rubbing alcool
For some types of tears I use liquid bandage stuff
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Post by simosg on Aug 8, 2011 11:53:46 GMT -8
I will also have a try, thank you for your comments.
Does anybody have an idea which paint or pigments can be used for touch up damages? Water color?
Hannes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2011 16:59:50 GMT -8
I use Acrylic craft paint for my needs. It is water-soluable and very easy to mix colors with.
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Post by lordpandarus on Aug 9, 2011 4:38:24 GMT -8
I just did this Attachments:
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Also, the 'wetness' of the glue with alcohol seems to favor wing pieces coming together as opposed to globy glue that seems to actually repel pieces going together.
