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Post by lucanidae25 on May 23, 2015 5:31:53 GMT -8
I personialy think Hexarthrius sanuchi should be a ssp of H.nigritus. Has anyone else got this sp yet?    |
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Post by africaone on May 23, 2015 5:37:00 GMT -8
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Post by lucanidae25 on May 23, 2015 14:12:18 GMT -8
I don't know anyone would only collect lucanidae with the biggest female or the smallest male in this world.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 14:26:40 GMT -8
 I hope you can see the picture ok. I had to take a photograph from my PC screen. It wouldn't allow me to upload any other way. just been offered this odontolabis siva parryi 98mm how much do you think i can buy it for? |
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Post by bichos on Jun 22, 2015 18:20:15 GMT -8
 View AttachmentI hope you can see the picture ok. I had to take a photograph from my PC screen. It wouldn't allow me to upload any other way. just been offered this odontolabis siva parryi 98mm how much do you think i can buy it for?  Is it wild or bred??? From Taiwan?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 0:11:48 GMT -8
Yes, bred, taiwan. Yours for £2, 700 |
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Post by trehopr1 on Jun 23, 2015 9:48:48 GMT -8
WOW, the prices on "super lucanids" has really spiraled up through the roof ! Am I reading that figure correctly --- £2700 ? I always thought prices like that and more were reserved for super prioninae and dynastinae. Who would have imagined lucanidae. Admittedly, though I don't collect lucanids so I'm out of the loop on their pricing. I do think they are a way cool group to collect !
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Post by trehopr1 on Jun 23, 2015 9:57:38 GMT -8
lucanidae25, just curious here wondering if you prepare out any of your lucanidae collection or is it perpetually left enveloped (sealed) ? If it is left packaged than why?
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Post by africaone on Jun 23, 2015 10:39:44 GMT -8
WOW, the prices on "super lucanids" has really spiraled up through the roof ! Am I reading that figure correctly --- £2700 ? I always thought prices like that and more were reserved for super prioninae and dynastinae. Who would have imagined lucanidae. Admittedly, though I don't collect lucanids so I'm out of the loop on their pricing. I do think they are a way cool group to collect ! that is the contrary, the lucanid are most priced than any other beetles because of the Japanese interest for them and the nearly mystic interest for them in Japan. On an African side, fortunetely the African lucanid are no more priced than in the past (the price of African material has been recently reajusted). They never reached the level of the Asian ones (very far) (I don't know one ever reaching 1000 € in Africa). The money are in hands of old generation of Japanese and the younger are not interested as they predeceesors. Anyway, the Japanese standard of living is higher than average in the rest of the world and this has an influence on insect's prices. |
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Post by bichos on Jun 23, 2015 14:10:41 GMT -8
Yes, bred, taiwan. Yours for £2, 700 Anyway, back to OSP just wow! Previous record was just over 90mm so it seems there is an overly proud Daddy out there. Now the 2700 is an ASKING PRICE. Nobody has payed this as far as we know. The seller can ask what he wants. OSP is a rather common species, so this would certainly influence and thus reduce the amount collectors are prepared to pay. Furthermore, its a bred specimen, which brings its value down even further as some collectors wont collect or pay as much for bred specimens. Lastly, how accurate is that measurement? |
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Post by lucanidae25 on Jun 23, 2015 19:24:31 GMT -8
Yes, bred, taiwan. Yours for £2, 700 Anyway, back to OSP just wow! Previous record was just over 90mm so it seems there is an overly proud Daddy out there. Now the 2700 is an ASKING PRICE. Nobody has payed this as far as we know. The seller can ask what he wants. OSP is a rather common species, so this would certainly influence and thus reduce the amount collector's are prepared to pay. Furthermore, its a bred specimen, which brings its value down even further as some collectors wont collect or pay as much for bred specimens. Lastly, how accurate is that measurement? I agree that is a common sp I would rather pay that kind of money for a westwoodi or a gynandromorphs. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 0:41:33 GMT -8
The breeder is here in the UK at university studying entomology. He also has a fresh lucanus cervus akbesianus @ 101mm for sale. The beetles are still for sale. I suppose the price would be negotiable as i haven't asked him yet. He has many large specimens for sale which i think are cheap. If anyone requires his email i will pass it onto you. The man in question collects goliathus over 100mm, so anyone who has such specimens may if they want to, strike deals with him. pete Attachments:
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Post by Borja Gómez on Jun 30, 2015 15:43:37 GMT -8
WOW, the prices on "super lucanids" has really spiraled up through the roof ! Am I reading that figure correctly --- £2700 ? I always thought prices like that and more were reserved for super prioninae and dynastinae. Who would have imagined lucanidae. Admittedly, though I don't collect lucanids so I'm out of the loop on their pricing. I do think they are a way cool group to collect ! that is the contrary, the lucanid are most priced than any other beetles because of the Japanese interest for them and the nearly mystic interest for them in Japan. On an African side, fortunetely the African lucanid are no more priced than in the past (the price of African material has been recently reajusted). They never reached the level of the Asian ones (very far) (I don't know one ever reaching 1000 € in Africa). The money are in hands of old generation of Japanese and the younger are not interested as they predeceesors. Anyway, the Japanese standard of living is higher than average in the rest of the world and this has an influence on insect's prices. Hello Regarding the african lucanids, don't forget the Colophon. Perhaps in the past they were not etremely expensive (althoug they are very local), but I'm sure that if today you could obtain some legal specimens (to all who don't know it, this genus is placed in CITES III by RSA) they will reach probably more than those 1000€ and some species probably much more, as to obtain specimens legally would be extremely hard because it's only allowed to collect this genus with permit of RSA government for scientific purposes and that doesn't include the selling of the surplus specimens collected I suppose. I don't talk about ilegally collected specimens, I don't know wich price they could reach, probably more than 1000€ too, but since it's an ilegally obtained specimen it shouldn't be purchased or collected and end of the story. On the other hand I know one species of African lucanid sold for more than 1000€. I know because I did it, and it wasn't a giant in fact... A very small species, Xiphodontus bicolor. And to be true it wasn't a single specimen but a pair. The buyer was from Japan, yes  And just in case someone might think I made a hell of a deal, not so much, as I paid just a sligthly smaller sum for it . I'm sure it's not very rare in his habitat (wixh I don't know if it's local or widespread), but anyways, wich local collector will pay attention to 1,5cm beetle? They look for big cerambycidae, cetoniids, etc... If you want such kind of species you have to go there (Tanzania in this case) and go search for it, knowing what you are looking for, and with some amount of luck and collect it. Regards |
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waow, we have an idea on why women doesn't collect lucanid ! 
And just in case someone might think I made a hell of a deal, not so much, as I paid just a sligthly smaller sum for it