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Post by Adam Cotton on Sept 25, 2011 7:21:04 GMT -8
A Chinese contact sent me this photo, but I don't know what it is (it isn't a Papilio ;-) ). It came from Yushu, Qinghai province, China. Anyone know what it is? Adam. Attachments:
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Post by prillbug2 on Sept 25, 2011 10:29:12 GMT -8
It's a moth. Needs to spread out. I can't tell what it is without it being spread.
Jeff Prill
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Post by Adam Cotton on Sept 25, 2011 11:14:47 GMT -8
Thanks Jeff, I thought it might be a Hesperiid as there are some local Hesperiidae here in Thailand that look vaguely similar from the underside. There's no indication of size in the photo either. I'll try to get more information.
Adam.
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Post by nomihoudai on Sept 25, 2011 13:30:53 GMT -8
I was thinking about Hesperiidae too, look at the antennae.
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Post by bichos on Sept 25, 2011 14:07:08 GMT -8
NOT Hesperidae, look at the hind legs.
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Post by bbmming on Sept 26, 2011 4:14:45 GMT -8
The photo is mine.I think it's a moth.Its size is less than 2cm.
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Post by nomihoudai on Sept 26, 2011 9:06:46 GMT -8
The only moth with such straight thick antennae I could think of would be Sesiidae, but I admit this post of mine didn't bring us much further  It is a very interesting specimen. |
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Post by maliciousinchworm on Sept 26, 2011 10:11:33 GMT -8
Hi, Long time without posting, I forgot my password and was lazy about getting a new one My bet is Noctuidae: Agaristinae. I agree with Jeff, we need to see the specimen mounted to go further in the ID. Regards, Alejandro A. |
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Post by jshuey on Sept 26, 2011 11:29:30 GMT -8
I'd bet my left testicle that it's a high-altitude skipper. It's fuzzy - like things get at high altitude which makes it a bit confusing and it's a wierd pattern that I've never seen. But if you forget those two things and look at it.
Big hesperiid eyes (palps look like they are ripped off - but they aften have great skipper characters on them.
Classic spined hind tibia (someone mentioned that the legs didn't look skipper-like - boy - they look exactly like skipper legs to me.
Antennnae are obvious
And wing shape...
But I limit my wager to the left only...
John
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Post by bichos on Sept 26, 2011 18:51:27 GMT -8
Give it up ;D Skipper hidlegs legs are never (as far as I am aware) that much larger than the midlegs. They are nearly the same size only slightly larger, see pictured specimens (from central Mexico). Tis an unussual Chinese moth. Attachments:
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Post by thanos on Sept 26, 2011 20:51:29 GMT -8
I think it's an Agaristinae Noctuid -as Alejandro said above- ,which mimics Hesperiidae.
Thanos
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Post by Chris Grinter on Sept 26, 2011 23:30:33 GMT -8
Wow this is a tricky one. Every comment has good points and I've been going back and forth. But, I just don't see the antennae as belonging to any Agaristinae that I know of. Kinda looks like a mixture of Castniidae/Hesperiidae/Noctuidae...
If I had to put some money in the pot I'd go with Hesperiidae as well. A spread specimen is a must though!
I'd probably only put a few bucks on the line though, it could be some weird Noctuid from Asia I've never heard of.
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Post by wollastoni on Sept 26, 2011 23:52:46 GMT -8
I would say Agaristinae too...
Caught many of "giant mountainous Hesperidae" in Asia and Papua and never seen such legs !
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Post by nomihoudai on Sept 27, 2011 9:06:55 GMT -8
It is a hybrid between the mimicry moth and the high altitude skipper ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Somebody must buy the moth,butetrfly, whatever? from the guy and spread it !
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Post by thanos on Sept 29, 2011 18:07:36 GMT -8
btw,as also Castniidae were mentioned above by Chris Grinter, doesn't the Australian Castniid moth Synemon parthenoides superficially look like Hesperiidae,too..  ? Thanos |
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It is a very interesting specimen.
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