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Post by crino on Oct 12, 2011 2:18:02 GMT -8
Nice species from Laos Attachments:
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Post by wolf on Oct 12, 2011 9:55:41 GMT -8
Nice Here's one i caught last summer. From Tam Dao, Vietnam. Attachments:
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 12, 2011 10:23:07 GMT -8
Crino, Where in Laos is your specimen from? I'd guess it's from Nam Phao border, east of Lak Sao, as that's where most Laos specimens come from and is approximately the type locality of doddsi too. In Laos dialis was only known from a few places along the Vietnam border, from Nong Het (Xiang Khouang) to Heu (Kammouane) at about 5-800m altitude. It is very seasonal in its localities, many specimens all flying over about 10 days, so if you're in the right place between generations you wont see any. In the Lak Sao area it flies in March, May, July and October. In Feb 2005 I caught the first specimen known from Thabok, C Laos at only 200m, and 2 more were collected there early this year, so it is probably also present on Phou Khao Kieow (a 1500m mountain just to the north) with occasional males flying downstream from the hills. Interestingly the specimen I caught there is greener than those from the Vietnamese border. I haven't seen the 2 specimens collected this year, so don't know if they are similar or not. Adam. Attachments:
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 12, 2011 10:41:34 GMT -8
Here's a composite of doddsi 5th instar larva and pupa (from Lak Sao). Adam. Attachments:
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 12, 2011 12:46:09 GMT -8
For comparison here's a photo of the 5th instar larva of bianor gladiator, also from Lak Sao. Sadly I only got a single live egg from my wild caught doddsi female (the pupa is a female! I'm waiting for it to emerge) but I'm now starting the 2nd generation of bianor, which laid eggs on Tetradium glabrifolium (plant from Taiwan). I fed the larvae of both species on Zanthoxylum myriacanthum. Adam. Attachments:
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Post by crino on Oct 13, 2011 12:20:32 GMT -8
Adam, you are lucky! I wish I could ever see these species flying and even be able to breed some of them. In the next life, maybe  Regarding the doddsi, actually this specimen was not caught in Laos but in Tam Dao, Vietnam, like the one posted by wolf. Sorry, I mistyped it. The specimen wich I have from Laos is labelled as follows: "Nam Phao border post, 600 m alt. Lak Sao District", but it is smaller than the other one from Vietnam. The wingspan of the Laos' specimen is 9,1 cm, and the wingspan of the 'vietnamese' one is 11,9 cm. Now I have not enough light to get a good picture of it, but I'll try to get one tomorrow by daylight. Then I'll post it. Good night. |
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Post by crino on Oct 13, 2011 12:21:24 GMT -8
And thank you for the wonderful pictures!  |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 13, 2011 12:38:36 GMT -8
Adam, you are lucky! I wish I could ever see these species flying and even be able to breed some of them. In the next life, maybe Regarding the doddsi, actually this specimen was not caught in Laos but in Tam Dao, Vietnam, like the one posted by wolf. Sorry, I mistyped it. The specimen wich I have from Laos is labelled as follows: "Nam Phao border post, 600 m alt. Lak Sao District", but it is smaller than the other one from Vietnam. The wingspan of the Laos' specimen is 9,1 cm, and the wingspan of the 'vietnamese' one is 11,9 cm. Now I have not enough light to get a good picture of it, but I'll try to get one tomorrow by daylight. Then I'll post it. Good night. Thats funny, the Laos data is mine It must be one of the specimens I exchanged for butterflies with some dealers. It should actually read "2 km from Nam Phao border post". The border post itself is at 800m and there isn't a good place to collect there (the stream is in a deep ravine at that point). Here's a photo of my wife and I at the collecting point taken in early March when the 1st generation flies. That is smaller, and more brightly coloured. The next generation in May is larger, but most of the Tam Dao specimens are collected in July (3rd generation), they are bigger but duller. For some reason the Vietnamese collectors don't go out catching butterflies until May, and they miss the first generation and the univoltine spring species. Adam. Attachments:
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Post by crino on Oct 14, 2011 5:57:05 GMT -8
Thats funny, the Laos data is mine It must be one of the specimens I exchanged for butterflies with some dealers. It should actually read "2 km from Nam Phao border post". The border post itself is at 800m and there isn't a good place to collect there (the stream is in a deep ravine at that point). Here's a photo of my wife and I at the collecting point taken in early March when the 1st generation flies. That is smaller, and more brightly coloured. The next generation in May is larger, but most of the Tam Dao specimens are collected in July (3rd generation), they are bigger but duller. For some reason the Vietnamese collectors don't go out catching butterflies until May, and they miss the first generation and the univoltine spring species. Adam. Really? It is dated from March, 8th 2006. But the label misses that it was 2 km away from the border post... Maybe the collector who spread it cut this part of the label out. Here is a picture of the specimen. It should be spread again, the HWs are too low. Attachments:
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 14, 2011 9:40:41 GMT -8
Yes, that was definitely collected by me. You will notice the photo of my wife and I was taken on 5th March, 3 days before. That trip lasted from 2nd to 14th March. On 8th March I caught 8 males according to my records. Did you get the specimen from David Cassat? I exchanged a lot with him back then. I have actually been there on 17 separate, mostly 2-3 week, trips between February 2005 and August 2008. It's 2 days drive from here to Lak Sao, so it's not feasable to go for just a few days. Since then I haven't been able to get back due to a serious eye problem and then having a baby! You can add the co-ordinates and exact altitude to your data label: N.18d 22.461, E.105d 09.107 alt. 659 m. Here's a photo of the border post to Vietnam taken in March 2005. The stream is in a ravine to the left side of the picture, but as I said the collecting spot is 2km back down the road. Adam. Attachments:
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Post by crino on Jan 5, 2018 13:14:18 GMT -8
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Post by joachim on Mar 30, 2018 15:11:14 GMT -8
Hell, is it you with the net? Did you catch butterfkies or a beautiful woman or both??? Haha. regards Joachim
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Post by Adam Cotton on Mar 31, 2018 0:15:29 GMT -8
Hell, is it you with the net? Did you catch butterfkies or a beautiful woman or both??? Haha. regards Joachim  I took my Thai wife with me on collecting trips. She used to catch all the rare ones when I had my back turned. Adam. |
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Post by joachim on Mar 31, 2018 17:04:21 GMT -8
Hello, it reminds me on a story Mr. Treadaway told me. When he was driving in a car, he saw a butterfly next to the street. He stopped, took his net and ran back where he saw the butterfly. A man walking on the street, saw him with the big net and ran away very frightened. Of course you found your wife not with the ( for this too small ) net.
best wishes, joachim
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