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Post by anthony on Oct 17, 2011 7:29:12 GMT -8
A specimen may be common but have great personal value, sorry to hear about your loss and hope you catch a excellent replacement in the near future.
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Post by corradocancemi on Oct 17, 2011 15:27:18 GMT -8
Rule #1 Never leave a drawer open when it is not within your arms reach. Dear Rev, this Rule is also very important because enemies of the collection are not only the "visible" enemies like pets and kids... A great danger is represented by quite "invisible" enemies like collection's parasites (Dermestids and other insects), who can penetrate your opened drawer while you are out. |
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Post by jamesd on Oct 17, 2011 22:32:34 GMT -8
Debates appear here often it seems.
When I read the title of this post I assumed 'no more' meant extinction or ban of collection. Ah Specimen, not species.
Is Hyles closely related to Hippotion? It looks similar.
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Post by nomihoudai on Oct 17, 2011 23:12:04 GMT -8
Yes they are in the same tribe, Choerocampina Grote & Robinson, 1865, altough I find the Hyles euphorbiae group much nicer than the "skinny" Hippotion we got here.
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Post by jackblack on Oct 18, 2011 2:40:24 GMT -8
Hey Rev,
I agree with you some people really like to attack a topic/thread .
Lets get back on the road .
Cats are generally only good as crab bait I think , here in Aust they are a serious environmental threat .
Never turn your back on a specimen at home or in the field as it won`t be there when you turn around , I also have had too many take it for granted`s over the years , mainly the specimen has absconded by the time I turned back .
Hope you manage to catch another specimen , but I find sooner or later another will appear , just sometimes it can take a while .
Some of the critisms and attacks I read about between members really are quite amusing and petty and I`m only new hear myself , I agree about a new and separate thread for that , maybe something like , whats your GPS data so I can get my net out and attack you or lash you with my tongue?
I agree Rev none of it is scientifically helpfull.
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Post by Rev. Redmond Farrier on Oct 18, 2011 3:24:23 GMT -8
Had it been a lively debate, I wouldn't have said anything about it. I can enjoy a good debate and it was close enough to the topic that it wouldn't have bothered me at all. That was no debate. It was an argument full of personal attacks and very few facts to back up the sides. As for the cat, I love cats, but this one is really trying my patience. I was following "rule #1" from nomihoudai's post tonight and she still struck again. This time it was an Urbanus proteus. I dropped my forceps and they went under the chair. I climbed under the chair to get them with my spreading board less than 3 feet from me. When I looked up, she had taken it off the board and was about to eat it. It is now too damaged to bother with. At least this one was the lowest quality of three specimens I have and not something that I seldom see around here. I may have overdone it with the spray bottle this time though. She is soaked and hasn't come out of her hiding place for over two hours.  |
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Post by nomihoudai on Oct 18, 2011 4:32:58 GMT -8
rule #3 Feed the cat before mounting stuff, lol
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Post by Rev. Redmond Farrier on Oct 18, 2011 4:51:31 GMT -8
Lol, it seems that she is more interested in my bug collection than her own food. You should have seen the way she was looking at the huge grasshopper I was spreading the other day! She won't get close to it when I am looking at her, but she just sits there looking at it like she is just waiting for me to turn my back like she did with my Urbanus proteus...
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Post by palnic on Oct 23, 2011 14:03:11 GMT -8
I sympathize with the Rev, I returned home from a shopping trip having just purchased a pair of Papilio Deiphobus, Papilio Buddah & a nice pair of Delias Diaphana and left the box on the living room table, my wife decided to open the box & inspect the contents when her glasses fell from her head totally wrecking the female Deiphobus beyond repair, the Buddah suffered the same fate and the Diaphana left without any fore wings. She still can not understand why I have not been speaking to her. I have one accident prone wife to swap !!!
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Post by saturniidave on Oct 23, 2011 17:25:56 GMT -8
Jeez mate, that is a lot of money down the drain. I would make mine buy me new ones.  |
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Post by wingedwishes on Oct 24, 2011 13:24:47 GMT -8
Try Monarchs next (Danaus plexippus). Maybe your cat will get such an upset stomach from eating them that it will stop.
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Post by dertodesking on Oct 25, 2011 12:21:48 GMT -8
I sympathize with the Rev, I returned home from a shopping trip having just purchased a pair of Papilio Deiphobus, Papilio Buddah & a nice pair of Delias Diaphana and left the box on the living room table, my wife decided to open the box & inspect the contents when her glasses fell from her head totally wrecking the female Deiphobus beyond repair, the Buddah suffered the same fate and the Diaphana left without any fore wings. She still can not understand why I have not been speaking to her. I have one accident prone wife to swap !!! I sympathise (especially for the loss of the P. buddha - ouch  ). My missus once dropped her car keys on some papered specimens I had left on our kitchen table...needless to say I was NOT happy...oh...and I left her in no doubt why I wasn't speaking to her!!! Simon |
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Post by rjb on Oct 25, 2011 18:25:28 GMT -8
Lots of sympathy to the Rev. I love cats but they can be the sneakiest, most untrustworthy creatures ever. I just returned from a couple weeks hiking around the Atlas mountains in Morocco. There were cats everywhere! We had to fend off the beggars from lots of our dinner tables.
However, making a fuss about Hyles lineata? I get about a hundred every summer by UV lights in the yard here in Albuquerque. They are a major food for my box turtle. I put them in the refrigerator each night and hand them to the turtle in the morning. As they wake up and fan their wings the turtle grabs them.
Rick
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Post by Rev. Redmond Farrier on Oct 25, 2011 21:52:53 GMT -8
As I said in the original post, I realize that this is not a high end specimen, but I have little to no interest in exotics. Not only was this the first lineata I have found, it is the only one I have ever seen. I am sure I will find another next season, but apparently they are not as common here as they are in Albuquerque.
Oh, and I know what you mean about having to defend your dinner table. I could not eat without having my spray bottle at my side for nearly a week before she finally got the picture. Now she just sits at my feet while I eat and gives me this sad look while letting out long, mournful meows.
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Post by papilio28570 on Oct 27, 2011 5:50:24 GMT -8
Rev., how do you collect your moths? This moth is very common and should be easily replaced by attracting to light or check the flower garden just around dusk.
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). My missus once dropped her car keys on some papered specimens I had left on our kitchen table...needless to say I was NOT happy...oh...and I left her in no doubt why I wasn't speaking to her!!!