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Post by africaone on Dec 26, 2011 10:36:13 GMT -8
looking for id of this caterpillar (? papilionid) coming from Cambodia, Siem rap ! thanks, thierry [/img] Attachments:
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Post by Adam Cotton on Dec 26, 2011 11:02:03 GMT -8
It's a 5th instar Graphium larva, probably G. doson axion but could be eurypylus, which looks almost identical. It is not agamemnon, which has orange on the false eyes. The best bet would be doson, as it's far commoner than eurypylus, which is a forest species. G. doson is found in all lowland habitats.
Do you know what it is feeding on? It's probably a species of Annonaceae, but doson also feeds on Magnoliaceae.
Adam.
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Post by africaone on Dec 26, 2011 11:39:02 GMT -8
I don't know the foodplant ... as you described biotopes it sems better doson. thanks for your help Adam !
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Post by Adam Cotton on Dec 26, 2011 11:43:15 GMT -8
Looking at the photo again, the leaf could also be Cinnamomum camphora (Lauraceae), another doson foodplant.
Adam.
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Post by krupten on Dec 27, 2011 9:07:43 GMT -8
HI Adam - you are correct it is doson - I bred out lots and that is the beast. I would also most likely agree with your Cinnamomum id as the leaves are coming off in what appears to be in pairs but staggered - unlike the Annonaceae which come off in parallel pairs. Magnolia by the way is preffered by many of the Graphium and the genus Michelia is "loved". M. grandiflora for example is NOT frequented and if there is a choice - definately the species will take to the flush of Michelia. However species like antiphates and agetes prefer Desmos - and all the ones I found were almost certainly on D. chinensis albeit I know in Nong Nooch there is another host plant - similar genus but not IN CULTIVATION.
Cheers
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Post by Adam Cotton on Dec 28, 2011 9:15:25 GMT -8
Greg,
Actually it is impossible to confirm that it is NOT eurypylus from the photo, the 5th instar larvae are identical, however, it is much more likely that it is doson since that species is much commoner, and Thierry suggests that the habitat was not lowland forest, which implies that it must be doson.
G. antiphates loves Anomianthus dulcis as much as Desmos chinensis and cochinchinensis. I have all these plants here in my garden.
G. doson and agamemnon attack various species of Magnolia/Michelia, but as you say, not M. grandiflora which has rather hard leaves.
Adam.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Dec 28, 2011 9:26:41 GMT -8
Greg,
Actually it is impossible to confirm that it is NOT eurypylus from the photo, the 5th instar larvae are identical, however, it is much more likely that it is doson since that species is much commoner, and Thierry suggests that the habitat was not lowland forest, which implies that it must be doson.
G. antiphates loves Anomianthus dulcis as much as Desmos chinensis and cochinchinensis. I have all these plants here in my garden.
G. doson and agamemnon attack various species of Magnolia/Michelia, but as you say, not M. grandiflora which has rather hard leaves.
Adam.
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