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Post by wolf on Feb 7, 2012 7:21:15 GMT -8
Here are some skippers from Mancora in north Peru. Id would be appriciated! 1. Attachments:
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Post by wolf on Feb 7, 2012 7:21:39 GMT -8
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Post by wolf on Feb 7, 2012 7:22:09 GMT -8
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Post by wolf on Feb 7, 2012 7:22:34 GMT -8
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Post by wolf on Feb 7, 2012 7:23:17 GMT -8
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Post by jshuey on Feb 7, 2012 13:10:13 GMT -8
Here are some educated guesses (I'm at work and have no books with me at the moment.
1. Urbanus "esmeraldus" ( the photo is pretty blurry of the DHW - but it looks like this species - but a better photo would help eliminate the other 2-3 species that are similar) 2. Urbanus dorantes 3. Astraptes "fulgerator fulgerator" (this is a complex of species that Janzen and Burns demonstrated to be made up of 8-9 species in Costa Rica. Your bug is definitely NOT one of the bugs that occurs in Costa Rica, and in older taxonomies goes by the name I gave you). 4. Chiodes "catillus" (I'm reasonably sure about this - but without looking at a references, I'm just not too sure what other species might be in Peru) 5. Perichares philetes adela - this is another group of sibling species that Burns and Janzen teased apart in Costa Rica - 4 very subtly different bugs. This looks like the common one to me (which is adela) but it could well be one of the others (or undescribed).
Welcome to the world of Hesperiidae!!
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Post by wolf on Feb 7, 2012 13:38:50 GMT -8
hehe thanks alot jshuey! I got some more, if u/anyone else have time and want to help me! These are from Tingo Maria however! 6. Attachments:
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Post by wolf on Feb 7, 2012 13:40:20 GMT -8
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Post by wolf on Feb 7, 2012 13:42:27 GMT -8
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Post by thanos on Feb 7, 2012 16:09:58 GMT -8
6. Mimoniades nurscia Swainson, 1821 ,male.
7. Genus: Pyrrhopyga ,male.
8. Genus: Jemadia ,male.
Thanos
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Post by jshuey on Feb 7, 2012 17:43:01 GMT -8
6. Mimoniades nurscia Swainson, 1821 ,male. 7. Genus: Pyrrhopyga ,male. 8. Genus: Jemadia ,male. Thanos 6- correct 7 - probably - it keys out as Pyrrhopyge hadassa 8- definately not Jemadia - This is an Elbella - probabaly Elbella patrobus (one of the many subspecies). You can tell it is not Jemadia by the number of apical spots, and the fact that it just has one post medial spot. Elbella species mimic very effectively several of the species groups of Pyrrhopyge. shuey
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Post by thanos on Feb 7, 2012 22:14:26 GMT -8
jshuey, about Pyrrhopyge you're right that the correct name of the genus is Pyrrhopyge (not Pyrrhopyga that I wrote), cause, as stated by Hemming (1967), Pyrrhopyga Westwood, 1852 is an incorrect subsequent spelling of Pyrrhopyge Hübner, 1819 .
Thank you for pointing out the distinction between Elbella and Jemadia ,-interesting. Indeed Elbella have 5 subapical and 1 post medial spot,while Jemadia have 4 subapical and 2 post medial white hyaline spots. Apart from these characters, Jemadia are soooo similar to some Elbella species. As well,as you said,very similar are other Elbella species to many Pyrrhopyge ,-this mimicry is interesting !
Thanos
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Post by wolf on Feb 8, 2012 2:52:53 GMT -8
Thanks to both of you!
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