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Post by wolf on Feb 8, 2012 4:19:58 GMT -8
Are both these Morpho achilles? Confirmation/correction appriciated!  1. Attachments:
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Post by wolf on Feb 8, 2012 4:20:19 GMT -8
2. Attachments:
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Post by wolf on Feb 10, 2012 13:08:23 GMT -8
Anyone?  |
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Post by timsbugs on Feb 10, 2012 14:29:43 GMT -8
My guess, based on my collection and Blandin's description:
M. achilles fagardi Weber, 1963
Tim
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Post by thanos on Feb 10, 2012 15:02:52 GMT -8
The first specimen is male of M.helenor* (one of the Peruvian subspecies,possibly theodorus as it has narrower blue bands than in ssp. papirius). The second male with the wide blue bands is M.achilles*,possibly ssp. fagardi (it was formerly known as ' patroclus orestes',but now this is treated as conspecific with achilles ) as it comes from Tingo Maria,C.Peru (ssp.phokylides comes from N.Peru as far as I know). M.patroclus orestes= M.achilles fagardi .Also, a subspecies with even wider blue bands known now as M.achilles agamedes from Peru is the formerly known M.pseudogamedes ( achilles agamedes= pseudogamedes). Also,many former 'species' (like achilleana,peleides,montezuma etc),with the recent phylogenetic studies, are now listed as subspecies of M.helenor by Lamas (2004). * M.helenor is very similar morphologically to M.achilles ,but there are keys(pattern characters of the underside of the wings) to distinguish them. Andrew Neild (author of Butterflies of Venezuela) says: "In helenor the submarginal whitish band on the underside hindwing gets wider towards the apex and is usually widest at the apex; in achilles it narrows towards the apex, and is usually wider / widest in its mid section. Also, but not always, on the FW, in space 3 ( the one that usually has the biggest FW ocellus ), the broad pale band is almost always crescent-shaped, while in achilles it is usually triangular, or if nearly crescent-shaped, wider than it is in sympatric helenor." Check these characters on the verso-sides of wolf's specimens : it is clear that the first male is helenor (the white submarginal band on the underside hindwing of this male gets wider towards the apex,and the broad white band in space 3 of forewing is crescent-shaped) and the second is achilles (the white submarginal band on the underside hindwing of this male narrows towards the apex and is wider in its mid section,and the broad white band in space 3 of forewing is triangular).  Thanos |
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Post by admin on Feb 10, 2012 15:32:13 GMT -8
Nice pictures.
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Post by wolf on Feb 11, 2012 3:19:12 GMT -8
Thanks guys!
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Post by wolf on Feb 11, 2012 3:27:40 GMT -8
I got one more i forgot about, if u guys would be so kind and help  Also from Tingo Maria. Attachments:
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Post by timsbugs on Feb 11, 2012 13:52:38 GMT -8
M. cisseis gahua Blandin, 1988. Male
Tim
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Post by wolf on Feb 12, 2012 5:55:46 GMT -8
I had a suspicion, but thanks alot Tim! |
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