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Post by timoinsects on Sept 4, 2012 0:13:10 GMT -8
what it is??? the first time i saw it. and also only one. was caught on a tree's fruit(seeds)
S.E.Tibet, elevation 1500m about.
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Post by wollastoni on Sept 4, 2012 0:26:27 GMT -8
A ghost Rutelidae ?
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Post by africaone on Sept 4, 2012 0:32:59 GMT -8
for scotland members ?
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Post by Entomofou on Sept 5, 2012 11:42:53 GMT -8
Trichiinae to my mind...
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Post by Entomofou on Sept 5, 2012 11:43:51 GMT -8
Paratrichius/Epitrichius/ ...
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Post by Entomofou on Sept 5, 2012 11:54:47 GMT -8
Mmmmm, in fact, I am not really sure... You should controle by yourself if it is a Cetoniidae or a Rutelidae :
Claws of the posterior legs different the one of the other one : one shorter than the other, only one claw, etc... : Rutelidae Claws of the posterior legs identical : Cetoniidae (and other Scarabaeoidea families)
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Post by africaone on Sept 5, 2012 12:41:14 GMT -8
looks like a Rutelinae (? Anisopliini)
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Post by Entomofou on Sept 5, 2012 22:23:12 GMT -8
Yes, the median legs seem to be typical of Rutelidae... But a confirmation by timoinsect could be nice...
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Post by timoinsects on Sept 6, 2012 0:56:09 GMT -8
i asked a chinese entomological colleague,he said was possible a Trichiinae. but probally not a Rutelidae... but in the begining when it was caught i thought it looks more alike,yes the legs,Rutelidae. the curved hind legs.
it was singlly caught on a tree's fruit,and only this one,not even other insects was caught... unlike Trichiinae that a tree full of flowers,the different appearances ones could be found,normally exist two to several species.
need further study...
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Post by dkeith on Sept 8, 2012 10:59:37 GMT -8
no trichiine at all - a beetle of genus Xenoceraspis formerly put in the tribe Macrodactylini, but now without definte tribe
there are some species described, also from China - a more accurate ID is not possible on a picture
cheers denis
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Post by timoinsects on Sept 8, 2012 11:12:23 GMT -8
Hi Denis,do you have photos of any related species of this genus? especially you mentioned some species described also from China. i made an search on google,could not find any similar appearance photos of this genus and few photos of Macrodactylini which looks quite different (other genus).
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Post by dkeith on Sept 8, 2012 12:53:54 GMT -8
calcaratus Y.-W. Zhang, 1988 longimacularis Y.-W. Zhang, 1988
both from Xizang
sorry no pictures available from Chinese species - i know the indian ones
denis
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Post by timoinsects on Sept 8, 2012 22:41:37 GMT -8
we need book! you and me!
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Post by timoinsects on Sept 8, 2012 22:44:05 GMT -8
the photos of the indian ones are actually necessary to be put here,make a basic comparing by appearance. hope to see photo next time by you.
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Post by dkeith on Sept 9, 2012 0:47:11 GMT -8
maybe i will do it in a more or less short future, but after a scientific revision - Zhang didn't saw the types of already described taxa and i suspect synonymies...
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