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Post by oliversch on Feb 6, 2013 7:33:12 GMT -8
Ornithoptera arfakensis arfakensis from Arfak Mts., Irian Jaya Attachments:
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Post by oliversch on Feb 6, 2013 7:34:12 GMT -8
Ornithoptera arfakensis arfakensis from Arfak Mts., Irian Jaya Attachments:
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Post by oliversch on Feb 6, 2013 7:43:23 GMT -8
Ornithoptera paradisea ssp. from 150 - 200 km northwest of Merauke, Irian Jaya. All paradisea from these population have a enlarged black fw-band and smaller size as O. p. detanii from Timika area. Attachments:
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Post by froggy on Feb 6, 2013 10:25:45 GMT -8
Oliver,
Keep them coming!! these specimen are all very beautiful and interesting. What a treat!
Many thanks,
Thierry
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Post by johnnyboy on Feb 9, 2013 3:06:33 GMT -8
My O. alexandrae pair, male with gold spots. Not perfect (male wing with small patch, female wing split) but obtained in 1970's while still non-cites, and at a good price. Johnny Attachments:
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Post by nomad on Feb 9, 2013 7:13:08 GMT -8
 Oliver Another amazing array of specimens from your collection. The O. paradisea race from quite a distance north of Merauke, West Papua, looks most unusual. The much reduced cubital band is similar to the O. paradisea sabinae variation shown by agriaslover on page three of this thread. However you mentioned all the male specimens from this population have the enlarged forewing black band and this would be a most notable new population and a extension of this species known range. Your historic specimen of the nominate O. paradisea from Finschhafen on the Huon Peninsular comes from a locality where it is said to be extinct. Johnnyboy. Nice pair of O. alexandrae. I believe your male with the hindwing goldspots is the rare form atavis. A lovely plate of this form is shown in Ornithoptera by Oliver Schaffler.
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Post by froggy on Feb 9, 2013 9:21:21 GMT -8
We just got buried in 27+ in of snow overnight  Not quite the tropics here, but very beautiful nevertheless! Good day to work on my files of birdwing images ;D Thierry Attachments:
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Post by oliversch on Feb 9, 2013 14:11:32 GMT -8
O. paradisea ssp. female NW of Merauke Attachments:
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Post by nomad on Mar 2, 2013 10:45:58 GMT -8
A male specimen of the almost mythical O. chimaera flavidior from the Huon Peninsula 1973. Unfortunatly not mine, the treasure of fellow collector, a friend who I visited today. Attachments:
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Post by simosg on Mar 2, 2013 10:51:37 GMT -8
Shouldn't the black points at the hindwings be included of the golden pattern in flavidior?
Hannes
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Post by nomad on Mar 2, 2013 13:35:23 GMT -8
That is what I orginally thought, the holotype has the black spots enclosed by gold, which is fig in Abrera and so does the specimen shown by Matsuka, however the specimen in the old Paul Smart book does not and this also does not appear to be the case with the male specimen shown on the Nagypal website from the Atzerae mtns. So I hope this specimen shown is indeed a genuine flavidior specimen. Peter The ex Paul Smart flavidior specimen, I wonder where this one went. Attachments:
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Post by nomad on Mar 2, 2013 13:57:29 GMT -8
A recent addition to my collection a small, ex pupa [ 10.5cm] Ornithoptera paradisea borchi from the Sepik River, 1974. Attachments:
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Post by simosg on Mar 3, 2013 1:40:59 GMT -8
That is what I orginally thought, the holotype has the black spots enclosed by gold, which is fig in Abrera and so does the specimen shown by Matsuka, however the specimen in the old Paul Smart book does not and this also does not appear to be the case with the male specimen shown on the Nagypal website from the Atzerae mtns. So I hope this specimen shown is indeed a genuine flavidior specimen. Peter The ex Paul Smart flavidior specimen, I wonder where this one went. As far as I know, this extended golden pattern is one or the main characteristic of flavidior. Hannes |
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Post by nomad on Mar 3, 2013 3:18:08 GMT -8
Again as there are so few specimens of O. chimaera flavidior who knows how constant this feature of the gold area enclosing the black spots is and if this is occurs in all of the specimens from the different localities in the Huon and other ranges where this rare taxon is supposed to fly. I can only say that the Paul Smart specimen was recorded as being a genuine specimen and the one I saw yesterday was supposed to have come from a reputable source. Again where so few specimens of a rare species exists it would be hard to be a 100% sure. I know this collector would never sell his specimen, because he is certain it is indeed a male flavidior.
Peter.
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Post by myko61 on Mar 5, 2013 6:39:50 GMT -8
I wonder where the ex Paul Smart flavidior specimen went?
Nomad (Peter),
If you compare the Paul Smart flavidior specimen to your friends flavidior from the Huon Peninsula 1973, you can see they are the same specimen. Your friend has the ex Paul Smart specimen.
Norman
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