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Post by nostrodamus on Dec 12, 2012 4:23:08 GMT -8
Is Parnassius apollo extinct in Andorra ?? (Pyrénées ) I see regulary some for sale (on ebay )... and they say it's extinct  ? I remember some 15-20 years ago or so that they were so common in Andorra ! And now extinct hmmm..... |
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Post by bobw on Dec 12, 2012 7:05:57 GMT -8
P. apollo was abundant in Andorra 3 years ago, and that was in September, which is rather late for them.
Bob
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Post by Christof on Dec 12, 2012 14:03:27 GMT -8
P. apollo is still abundant in Andorra and in the Pyrenees in general. Which does not mean it is not protected, of course!
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Post by Borja Gómez on Dec 13, 2012 6:59:24 GMT -8
Hello
Yes, the P.apollo is well stablished in Pyrenees. I've seen it many times the ocasions I were there.
I never collected it because it's specially illegal to get those being protected by specific legislation (all kind of insect collecting in Spain is forbidden, except if you have permits. Obtain this permits will take you several months, and you will never get them if you are a particular with no "institutional" scientific purposes).
Regards
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Post by Christof on Dec 13, 2012 14:16:44 GMT -8
it is true that a permit is needed to collect officially in Spain. And a different one for every province, what a great concept. This still wouldn't allow you to collect apollo, though. BTW, the pyrenees are right in the middle between Spain and France. There are plenty of leps to be found on the French side as well and the French are by far more tolerant towards collectors. I should know, my home is right outside Toulouse! Attachments:
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Post by pittendrighinsects on Dec 13, 2012 14:32:59 GMT -8
As for butterflies, Spain has a great biodiversity if you go to the right places at the right time, you can find some really amazing species. I spend my summers in central Spain, in Caceres, about 70 miles from Sierra de Gredos, and, since I only stay in June, July and August (though in the spring (may, april) you can find many more interesting species), I only catch a limited number of species. You can still find stuff like A. crategi, L. reducta and many nymphalids flying in June.
As for the legal issues, the only provinces that are concerned about permits and environmental crap are Andalucia, Madrid and Catalonia. Though you technically need a permit to collect, it is not too strict about the collecting laws.
Quintin
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