Do I need permit to ship dead stock to Canada

I don't know if anyone knows ALL the regulations -- I certainly don't. But from what I understand, you are allowed to export dead stock without a permit as long as the quantity and value don't exceed a certain amount. I think there is no problem if you ship fewer than ten specimens, with less than $250 value, and declare it as "dried insect specimens for scientific study." Of course, I recommend you read the regs to verify. This is just what I remember from last time I looked.

For importing, I think you are required to have "large" or commercial shipments inspected. For one or two small shipments, you don't need a permit as long as they have no declared commercial value. For larger, repeated, or commercial (as in purchased) shipments, you should probably call a wildlife inspector for CA Fish and Game and ask (although you shouldn't expect a clear answer).

Best,
Travis

Ok, if by 'Permit' you mean License, no (for fewer than 7 or 8 specimens not to be sold) License is required. If by 'permit' you mean the Form 3-177, then yes you do.
**********Oh---I'm assuming you're here in the US.********
Now, all insects coming into and going out of the US....do.....need a properly filled out Form 3-177 whether one has a license or not. This is a royal pain and many out there do not do all this painful Form 3-177 stuff, but it is the law:(

If you go to the listed website link, many answers and 'how to's will be available.

www.fws.gov/le/ImpExp/Info_Importers_Exporters.htm

FYI---I was a licensed importer for years here in the US.

If you have questions, I can put you on to a couple of real good inspectors who would really try to help you do things right. Contact me through the Messages system and I will provide names and numbers of reliable USFW people. Unfortunately, most are not at all that cooperative:(

Thanks Bill.

Here's the portion of the regs that I'm reading (Title 50 - 14.64)

(b) Except for wildlife requiring a permit pursuant to part 16, 17, 18, 21, or 23 of this subchapter B, a Declaration for the Importation or Exportation of Fish or Wildlife (Form 3–177) does not have to be filed for the exportation of the following:

(1) Wildlife that is not intended for commercial use where the value of such wildlife is under $250;

I may be misreading this, but it seems to allow for the exportation small, non-commercial shipments that meet certain criteria. Is there something else in the regs that would exclude a non-commercial shipment of dried moths to Canada from falling under this exclusion?

Best,
Travis

Good advice, Bill. If in doubt (as you should always be when dealing with USFW), just file the form.

Travis

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If you are just sending dead insects (or whatever wildlife items/products) to Canada out of the goodness of your heart (...and getting no recompense for them), then it is a personal shipment. If it's worth less than $250 then you don't need to file a 3-177. I'd do it anyway though, as it costs nothing since it's a personal shipment. Filing covers your butt, somewhat, if it gets stopped.

If you are selling, bartering, trading, etc any of the material you are exporting, then it is a commercial export. You'll need a license AND need to file a 3-177. The license is $100 and an inspection will cost $93 (provided it's routine and there are no protected species in the shipment).

The $250 exemption limit only applies to personal shipments.

If it leaves the US without all of that, then it's considered an illegal export. Environment Canada will seize it if they find it.