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Post by pittendrighinsects on May 14, 2013 18:28:47 GMT -8
Recently, I have been scammed by her on ebay as I sold her a nice specimen and she decided that she wanted to get most of her money back without returning the specimen. She wanted 30 usd back and to return the Ornithoptera croesus croesus female...I, of course, told her no since this was very unethical of her and not allowed on ebay. Anyway, she proceeded to give me bad feedback and then opened a case. She made up a tracking number after ebay made me refund her cash and, since I was so busy with exams, I wasn't able to argue or write much against her, so they gave her the money and she hasn't returned the specimen. I will never sell to such immoral and evil-hearted people and advise all you other members to block her.
Quintin
PS. she goes by the username "raggsomuffin" on ebay
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Post by wollastoni on May 15, 2013 7:04:46 GMT -8
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Post by pittendrighinsects on May 15, 2013 7:26:14 GMT -8
Admitted that it wasn't A1, but she could grade it from the picture and could have chosen to ask for a return for her money back WITHOUT giving me bad feedback...she was completely unreasonable and wanted a large amount back and to keep the specimen...the reason that she has good feedback is because sellers can't give anyone bad feedback, and she doesn't sell anything...
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 15, 2013 8:55:36 GMT -8
Yes, I must admit it seems a bit unfair/unrealistic that sellers can't give negative feedback to buyers who deserve it. I don't sell on eBay, and very rarely buy there now, so am not talking with personal motives. There are a (presumably relatively low) number of buyers on eBay who may not be exactly honest or decent, and it seems that sellers can't warn other sellers about them by leaving negative feedback.
Reading the posts here, I do think that Olivier may be right that there was a communication problem. On the other hand, aren't eBay sellers supposed to be over 18 years old? I guess it's rather like that monstrosity Facebook, where members are supposed to be over 18 too.
Adam.
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Post by wollastoni on May 15, 2013 10:04:09 GMT -8
Of course sellers CAN let negative feedback to buyers on Ebay.
This just doesn't affect their "percentage". This is to protect buyers reputation from bad dealers.
When you put an item for sale, you can also block all buyers with "bad reputation".
Frankly I just checked her feedbacks, she has THOUSANDS of positive feedback from serious dealers so I don't think at all she's a scammer, her name has nothing to do here.
Just a communication problem, once again.
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Post by pittendrighinsects on May 15, 2013 18:10:33 GMT -8
This wasn't a communication issue...she was being unfair (as she wanted me to give a large refund while also keeping the specimen), then I told her that I would return her money if she returned the specimen, and thats where she got nasty...she gave me negative feedback and, in the end, I was forced to give her her money back (my parents actually returned the money since they didn't want problems), and now I have neither the specimen nor the cash, cause this evil wicked witch stole it from me...not to worry of course, since God will give her what she deserves: an eternity in hell.
Anyway, I still advise all my friends here to ban her from their buyers list and block her from bidding...she is trouble.
Oh, and the reason that she has many positive feedbacks is because sellers cant give bad feedback...at least for me, this was the case...
btw, I have already done the wise thing and blocked her, so she will never ruin me again.
Quintin
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Post by wollastoni on May 16, 2013 0:11:14 GMT -8
Quintin, you should be able to "answer" to her negative feedback on ebay.
Be careful with your wordings. I am not sure a woman with thousands of positive feedbacks from hundreds of ebay sellers deserves the terms "evil wicked witch" " eternity in hell" for a different opinion on a A1 grading of a 30 USD lep.
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Post by pittendrighinsects on May 16, 2013 5:13:05 GMT -8
Wollastoni,
I asked her if she wanted to return the specimen for a full refund, but she wanted a large amount back and to keep the lep, so in vengance and as a childish thing to do, she left negative feedback...its not an issue of the grading, she just wanted to scam me and deserves at least this thread to warn others...
Quintin
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Post by nomihoudai on May 16, 2013 5:43:52 GMT -8
In all honesty, repackaging a butterfly and driving to the postal service where you additionally have to pay for the postal fees (you never said you are going to return these) isn't worth the trouble for 30$. The time you lose is easily more valuable than these 30 bucks. I guess she got angry after seeing that the butterfly is B quality, the needle isn't straight within the thorax and the wing shoulder most certainly has cracked.
The difference of price is about 5$ which is a bit insulting for an Ornithoptera croesus female and it is unfair that she left negative feedback but I can imagine how tempered you probably have responded.
This topic here is in some sense a mixed blessing. You are warning others from this person. She could very well just have opened a topic in here stating that some guy named bordacem would advertise specimen as A1 that are in fact just B quality. In German there is a saying which literally translates to "as you howl in the forest, as it will echo", I guess you got the meaning of it.
Learn from it and be careful about your grading of butterflies and stop misusing this section of the forum as a way to randomly insult people.
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Post by mikelock34 on May 16, 2013 10:52:06 GMT -8
If this little incident has you this upset, you may not be ready to run a business. I have sympathy for both parties involved, but as the businessman here you are in the wrong for selling the incorrectly graded specimen. You are responsible for the specimen not the buyer. I do not see any scam here. Take a deep breath, apologize to your customer and move on from a great learning experience. Regardless of the type of business you run, you will run into customer service/customer relation issues on occasion. You must learn to handle them correctly. That does not mean giving away your business to fraud, but it does mean evaluating the situation and seeking advice on how to handle the situation until you are more experienced in handling customers. In effect, you have just given yourself much more negative feedback than your customer did.
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