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Post by jensb on May 28, 2013 6:29:05 GMT -8
Hello guys, Just arrived. These 2 speciments came from a very good friend of mine. I where very lucky to get them. These 2 are ab ova bread. THis speciment was extinct they said. Until they found a new population so for all people how think they never sea some beautyful "extinct" species in the wild. Don't give up. Maybe one day you'll find a population. If some can tell more about this species i am happy to know.  Greets Jens |
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Post by wollastoni on May 28, 2013 7:35:33 GMT -8
Wonderful !
Where do they come from ?
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Post by jensb on May 28, 2013 7:47:38 GMT -8
Hello,
I will not say the data, because it is a secret place.
I am sorry. I will not write it on the internet where everyone
can see it and i dont want that this last known population
goes extinct because some idiots wanted make money out
of these moths
Greets jens
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Post by nomihoudai on May 28, 2013 8:26:49 GMT -8
Olivier was just asking about the country or some hint to know in which part of the world they live. The YU would suggest Yugoslavia. The correct spelling of the genus is Oxytripia. In Europe it is found in Spain, Hungary, Ex Yugoslavia, Croatia, Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Greece and Turkey. Furthermore it is found from Central Asia until Japan. [source www.noctuidae.de/page/art/orbiculosa.html]. There is a difference between locally extinct and extinct. this species may have been locally extinct but calling it extinct on the whole distribution range simply cannot be true. It is a beautiful species and congratulations for the specimen. |
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Post by jensb on May 28, 2013 10:08:45 GMT -8
Thnx for the information.
The label says e.o. and i know he means it is reared from a egg till butterfly.
Greets jens
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Post by wollastoni on May 28, 2013 23:33:30 GMT -8
Jens < as in a collection, a butterfly picture without collecting data on a forum has no value... on French forums, it's forbidden to post pictures without data.
I am not asking for precise locality, just to know from which region... just to learn...
+ nobody would be able to "extinct" a species... especially for a nocturnal moth...
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Post by jaguarae on May 29, 2013 0:34:59 GMT -8
May be Dalmatie in ex-Yougoslavie .... we can see YU-dalm on the picture ..... so now it's Croatie i mean ! ;-)
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Post by vgashtarov on Dec 9, 2013 12:06:52 GMT -8
Olivier was just asking about the country or some hint to know in which part of the world they live. The YU would suggest Yugoslavia. The correct spelling of the genus is Oxytripia. In Europe it is found in Spain, Hungary, Ex Yugoslavia, Croatia, Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Greece and Turkey. Furthermore it is found from Central Asia until Japan. [source www.noctuidae.de/page/art/orbiculosa.html]. There is a difference between locally extinct and extinct. this species may have been locally extinct but calling it extinct on the whole distribution range simply cannot be true. It is a beautiful species and congratulations for the specimen. was not collected in Bulgaria for a very long time. I think the only info about this species comes from Caradja - N. Black Sea Coast, Balcik, 07.11.1931. There is another information on Oxytripia coming from Popescu-Groj ( 1930 ). No doubt - an amazing bizarre day flying moth and as far as I know now days it can be found in Croatia. |
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Post by hewi on Dec 9, 2013 13:52:44 GMT -8
it is very probably from Makarska, Dalmatia, Croatica.
You can see the "Mak" at the label and I have found a specimen
with this locality in the net.
Manfred
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Post by rumina on Dec 10, 2013 3:12:26 GMT -8
I was with my brother in Makarska in 2011 for research in particular Carcharodus orientalis, Hipparchia syriaca and lycaena Ottomana (historically reported in the area). the place is extremely dry and stony, devoid of vegetation of tall trees (oak only in some depressions) but is really poor of butterflies.
sincerely the area announcing more interessant at night hunting of that day but we could not place lamps. the period was July 4th, I do not know if this fantastic moth was in flight).
the Kroatia is really interesting, but honestly I prefer the northern area towards jablanac and the area of Krka river(to visit ..........)
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Post by vgashtarov on Dec 13, 2013 1:12:33 GMT -8
I didn't knew L. ottomana was found even historically in Croatia ; here in Bulgaria population in located near Turkish border.
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Post by rumina on Dec 15, 2013 8:16:52 GMT -8
hi Dear, Lycaena ottomana is present in Croatia I'm sure. I know a collector who found this fantastic species near Dubrovnik. about this research I have an article but for the moment I don't find it in my archive. the species is also present in Kerkira (mount Pantokrator) and in Albania.
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Post by rumina on Dec 18, 2013 6:32:19 GMT -8
hi vgashtarov, I finally found the article that I quoted you in the previous discussion. I can not post it for copyright, but I can give you references:
Natura Croatica
vol. 14
No. 4
pages 255-262
Zagreb
31 Decembre 2005
see you soon, Rumina
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Post by nomad on Dec 18, 2013 10:00:52 GMT -8
I found this image of O. orbiculosa from Croatia, on sale this year at Juvisy   |
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Post by vgashtarov on Dec 18, 2013 11:55:45 GMT -8
Thanks rimina, I'll try to obtain them.
Best wishes, Victor
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