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Post by wollastoni on Oct 9, 2013 11:20:16 GMT -8
How is the part on Delias in Tennent's book ?
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Post by nomihoudai on Oct 9, 2013 12:29:11 GMT -8
There is only 4 species on the Solomon islands. If you consider this, then 3 pages of text and 23 pictures on 2 plates is an extensive coverage of the genus.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Oct 11, 2013 1:17:45 GMT -8
Some important references not mentioned yet for the Moluccas are a series of articles intended to cover all the families eventually. As of yet only the parts on the Papilionidae and Pieridae have been published, but I'm told the Danainae are up next. The Papilionidae checklist was published in NEVA in 2005 and the other two as follows: Vane-Wright, R.I. & Peggie, D. 1994. The butterflies of northern and central Maluku: diversity, endemism, biogeography, and conservation priorities. Tropical Biodiversity 2(1): 212–230. Peggie, D., Vane-Wright, R.I. & Yata, O. 1995. An illustrated checklist of the pierid butterflies of northern and central Maluku (Indonesia). Butterflies, Japan (11): 23–47. The reference for the Papilionidae checklist mentioned above is: Peggie, D., Rawlins, A., & Vane-Wright, R. I., 2005. An illustrated checklist of the papilionid butterflies (Lepidoptera: Papilionidae) of northern and central Maluku, Indonesia. Nachrichten des entomologischen Vereins Apollo, N.F. 26(1/2): 41-60. This publication is well worth obtaining for anyone interested in Papilionidae of the region. Adam. |
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Post by gauthier on Feb 13, 2014 7:28:51 GMT -8
I can't trace any reference for the periodical "Tropical Biodiversity", could you point out a link, please?
Thanks
Alain
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Post by lepidofrance on Feb 24, 2014 0:09:10 GMT -8
Some French Entomologists in Noumea (New Caledonia) told me that a new book on New Caledonian leps will be soon issued.
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Post by lepidofrance on Feb 24, 2014 0:23:25 GMT -8
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Post by exoticimports on Mar 6, 2014 7:45:57 GMT -8
John Tennent just published in Entomologischer Verein Apollo (2014) a scathing review of D'Abrera's Australia book. He noted unpublished names, unlabeled specimens, unidentified type specimens, incorrect synonyms, misspellings, and "incompetence" (Tennent's word). He cited just sloppy work, such as Bernard claiming that a particular male is unknown, yet there is a series of six next to the females in BMNH, which is just about the sole source for D'Abreras works.
And this is the second serious critique that Tennent has published on D'Abrera's sloppy work.
It is quite clear that D'Abreras books are not serious reference volumes, as one cannot rely on the information or data to be correct, complete, or comprehensive. All they are is very pretty coffee table books.
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Post by mygos on Mar 6, 2014 8:13:47 GMT -8
Also it is true that d'Abrera works are not always accurate, but since Seitz work, it was the only worldwide serie published !
The task was enormous, and obviously could not be perfect on every family and every species of the world.
When Tennent will have published such a tremendous work, he will be more than welcome to critisize in such a way ...
A+, Michel
P.S. : It does not mean that Tennent work on Vanuatu, North Africa or Solomon islands are not very well written !
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Post by nomad on Mar 6, 2014 9:57:56 GMT -8
Why are they publishing these books only in Indonesian, surely English language editions would sell far more. I find this really strange.  . |
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Post by mygos on Mar 6, 2014 10:58:43 GMT -8
I fully agree Peter, they are just not readable : an awfull language !!!
A+, Michel
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Post by nomihoudai on Mar 6, 2014 12:19:18 GMT -8
Bahasa Indonesia is not that awful... the grammar is similar to European languages and the words easy to pronounce...
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Post by mygos on Mar 6, 2014 12:58:25 GMT -8
Well Nomihoudai, on the last one received, I can not even identify who is the publisher of the book, and once payment was made no one will answer !
A+, Michel
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Post by bobw on Mar 6, 2014 23:29:53 GMT -8
I have to agree with John; the sheer volume of errors in D'Abrera's works means that they are useless for any serious work. However, Michel does have a point; they are the first books to attempt to cover all butterflies (except skippers) since Seitz (which is now woefully out-of-date). I have to admit I do have most of them and I find them useful as ID guides for groups I don't know very well. They are pretty books and the photos are good but they're rather expensive ID guides. You just have to bear in mind that they're riddled with errors, and try to ignore the constant proselytising, which has no place in a purportedly scientific work.
Bob
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Post by wollastoni on Mar 8, 2014 13:03:56 GMT -8
Indonesian is a beautiful language that works like our European languages... A pleasure in Asia!!!
FYI they publish these books in Indonesian to teach Papuan and Indonesian children the love of butterflies.
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Post by nomad on Mar 9, 2014 0:16:33 GMT -8
Interesting they are teaching the Papuan children the love of the Indonesian language when they all have their own.  |
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