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Post by jamesd on Feb 12, 2011 20:01:22 GMT -8
What would be the absolute most popular Lepidoptera? I can think of...
MOTHS: *Madagascan sunset moth. *Luna moth *Death's head hawk-moth *Atlas moth
BUTTERFLIES: *(ulysses) Blue mountain butterfly *Morpho butterflies *Birdwings
Can anyone add to this list?
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Post by nusferatus369 on Feb 12, 2011 21:29:40 GMT -8
That can be add to your list most is the family. I put the family because the list will be to long to add. Moth Saturniidae Sphingidae Artiidae Catocalinae
Butterflies
Papilionidae, Achillides, birdwing, parnassius Nynphalidae (agrias, Prepona, morphonidae)
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Post by nomihoudai on Feb 13, 2011 3:02:19 GMT -8
What do you mean ? Popular among non collecting people ? Then : Red butterfly Blue butterfly Yellow butterfly ( Common people don't know the names ) Among collectors and popularity ranked on insectnet you find these groups of people : Butterflies:1st group : The Papilionidae collectors, they like Papilionidae mainly Papilio, Achillides, Parnassius and of course Ornithoptera! There is two kind of people in this group, those with money, and those that gave their money for their collection. Papilionidae is as I would say price wise on of the most widespread families, so there is something for every budget. 2nd group : The Charaxinae collectors. This groups splits up again into Agrias collectors, people whose pockets surpass those of Papilionidae collectors and then the Prepona and Charaxes collectors which again have a pretty wide price range but don't surpass 5000€ as far as I got told. 3rd group: The big game hunters, they like any family as long as the colors are nice and the butterfly large. 4th group: the real hunters, they simply enjoy collecting themselves with their net, and take anything. 5th group: The big Pieridae collectors they split up into two very popular groups. The Delias/Catasticta collectors and the Colias collectors. The Delias collectors, they spoil all their specimen by mounting them upside down. The Colias collectors, they have been at the source of many sleepless nights of Thanos. 6th group: The Morphidae collectors, they like Morphos, again a more expensive group but also a lot of not so expensive species. They keep the Blandin books as their holy bible. 7th group: The Lycaenidae collectors, a very passionate group that really needs this passion as those little butterflies can drive you nuts when monting them. 8th group: The Heliconius collectors. Those poor people will never be able to identify their collection as it seems that these butterflies went trough a natural witness-protection program. Moth:1st group: The Saturniidae collectors, they think a moth is only a moth when it has a wingspan of at least 2 inch. They constantly battle the bad shape of their sought after species with their purse. 2nd group: The Catocala hunters, an exclusively North American group as collecting the 10 species in Europe is not a very long task. 3rd group: The Sphingidae collectors, I can't really comment here as I don't understand that group myself 4th group: The big game hunters: They catch anything large and themselves they always keep a deadly siringue in their pockets 5th group: the real hunters, they simply enjoy collecting themselves with their net, and take anything. 6th group: The Arctiidae collectors, they have risen mafia like structures of people to get the best specimen. 7th group: The Noctuidae collectors, their homes fill up with boxes and boxes of dead fluffy moth that they hope to mount one day but they know exactly they will never be able to. MicrolepidopteraThese people seem related to leap years, every 4 years one of them find his way to insectnet. Any comment above on the individual groups has been exaggerated and should not be taken up as offense.
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Post by maliciousinchworm on Feb 13, 2011 6:32:22 GMT -8
Nice! You should put Geometridae collectors inside the microlepidoptera group. I really enjoy collecting them and I´m a leaper!! Yes, this year I do not get presents, don´t need to be reminded.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 8:42:35 GMT -8
Nicely said nomihoudai......and an interesting read I might add.
One group you 'may' have left out was the "Mutt Group" for those of us who fall into several of your categories:)
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Post by nomihoudai on Feb 13, 2011 11:11:32 GMT -8
This group is on insectnet just as small as the Geometridae collectors
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 11:53:22 GMT -8
Fantastic reply Claude, gave me a real giggle, I like the big red and blue butterfly the best, I,m afraid I fall into Bills Mutt category although most of my collection is papilionidae and nymphalidae (the ones I can afford anyway) with small series of the other families, though I am trying to build up a British moth reference collection which may take a while with so many macros, so many of them are so similar I might have to take up examining genetalia.
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Post by panzerman on Feb 13, 2011 14:44:14 GMT -8
my favorites.... cethosia prepona charaxes, polyura papilionidae...esp. parides, least...lamproptera saturnidae...esp. bunaeopsis, automeris, actias.... parnassius, really in papilionidae group...like acco, acdestis, apollo John
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Post by wollastoni on Feb 14, 2011 0:50:31 GMT -8
You forgot Delias/Catasticta collectors. We are many ! Among us, some skillful scientists, some crazy adventurers and some wealthy collectors ! A nice little tribe ! Many American, European, Japanese and Australian guys.
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Post by wingedwishes on Feb 14, 2011 3:45:17 GMT -8
For volume of sales:
Atlas (cause it's big) Monarch (cause of the stories of a deceased loved one) Morpho (cause of the color and people see them in conservatories) Acherontia (death head) and Luna (cause people have them tattooed on their shoulder or leg) Any swallowtail (size and color)
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Post by jamesd on Feb 14, 2011 22:45:17 GMT -8
Thanks guys for the replies.
And thanks 'nomihoudai' for that fairly extensive thing. - Not sure what it has to do on the topic of popular Lepidoptera. I was really asking what collectors consider popular. I certainly agree with your comment on Lycanidae.
Did you compose those lines, just as you wrote it?
I think I'd be in groups; BUTTERFLIES: ''4rd'', 7th. MOTHS: 1st, 3rd and 5th.
Again, thanks people.
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Post by nomihoudai on Feb 15, 2011 8:38:16 GMT -8
Hello jamesd, yes I did write all this on the go just as I was waiting for lunch to be ready, some jokes may not be well tought out sry.
Well why did I post it ? It is because you can split up collectors into different groups and there is more people in the different groups. Here on insectnet the papilionidae collectors are the most popular so I guess Papilio machaon / Ornithoptera priamus would be one of the species found the most in collections. Just take a look into the "show your favorite specimen " and you will be beaten down by a wave of Papilionidae pics.
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Post by prillbug2 on Feb 15, 2011 9:50:46 GMT -8
Actually, to me, Lycaenidae are monsters. Try mounting micro-moths with 10 millimeter or less wing spans. And then try to do it when you're on the verge of needing bi-focal lenses. To me that is the real challenge. Besides, I collect all families of moths in Illinois. Jeff Prill
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Post by rayrard on Feb 23, 2011 7:58:51 GMT -8
I collect all sorts of butterflies and moths but I like collecting Hesperiidae. I guess that lumps me somehwere in between lycaenids and micromoths on the insanity/passion scale.
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Post by lordpandarus on Feb 24, 2011 15:27:32 GMT -8
I fall into the category:
Any day flying butterfly as long as it is distinct. I stop collecting when 2 species look almost identical (Papilio nierus,sosia for example) .I am a "morphological" collector .I also prefer Nymphalidae above all other families.
I think DaveUK is a bit like me
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