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Post by jensb on Nov 19, 2013 12:03:03 GMT -8
Hello, Someone knows the specie? Greets jens   |
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Post by dynastes on Nov 19, 2013 12:44:31 GMT -8
seems like male of Meandrusa gyas (Westwood, 1841) = Graphium, gyas   |
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Post by jensb on Nov 19, 2013 12:57:57 GMT -8
many many thnx
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 20, 2013 8:37:23 GMT -8
seems like male of Meandrusa gyas (Westwood, 1841) = Graphium, gyas Please ignore the above name, and give a big thank you (NOT!!!) to Bernard D'Abrera for making things worse. The name Papilio gyas Westwood is an unavailable name as it is a junior homonym, and the correct name for the species is lachinus Fruhstorfer, 1902. There is a lot of confusion, as the Chinese species, previously known as Papilio hercules Blanchard, 1871 is also a junior homonym, and the correct name for that taxon is Meandrusa sciron Leech, 1890. The confusion also was compounded because lachinus and sciron were thought to be the same species. Meandrusa lachinus occurs south of the Himalayas from NE India to Vietnam, and Meandrusa sciron is found on the northeastern side of the Himalayas, from Sichuan across China. Funahashi (2003) showed that both taxa are sympatric in Hagiang, N Vietnam, and there are morphological differences as well as those of colour pattern. Recently it has been shown that Meandrusa is the sister genus to Teinopalpus (Simonsen et al., 2011), and these two genera are now placed in Tribe Teinopalpini. These species have never been placed in genus Graphium. Jensb, it would help to know where the specimen comes from to give a more accurate identification, but it does look like a male of Meandrusa lachinus. Adam. |
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Post by exoticimports on Nov 20, 2013 8:47:22 GMT -8
Adam, I get the feeling that you pulled that off the top of your head, and not a reference guide! That's scary! Tell me you had to look that up.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 20, 2013 11:24:06 GMT -8
The only thing I had to check was the publication dates of the names, as I didn't want to disseminate incorrect information. The rest was indeed straight out of my head. Sorry if it scares you, but Papilionidae is my speciality and I am always happy to help when I can.
Adam.
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