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Post by beetlehorn on Dec 8, 2013 8:23:54 GMT -8
Some time ago I posted on this subject, and there were several responses which included some great pictures from other members. This told me to go ahead and post a video on the same project. For those of you that are sensitive to seeing anything dying, let me warn you there are some scenes with freshly captured moth specimens in killing jars. This is part of our hobby, so please refrain from making negative comments. This is Catocala collecting during the day, and can be very prodictive even though they are elusive. A good bit of stealth and understanding of their habits is required. I hope all moth collectors enjoy this video. Tom
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Post by jensb on Dec 8, 2013 10:19:09 GMT -8
Wow we in europe only can dream about something like that. Where i live i only can find nupta. I ones caught a mormo maura Which is very rare where i live but it got away after making a picture.
Greets
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 12:07:36 GMT -8
These are so great to watch now with snow on the ground. Makes getting 'collecting fever' all the more intense. Nice job on the video Tom. Maybe next time I visit those woods, I will find more, but like you hold me...timing is very important. Your catching device worked well.
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Post by joee30 on Dec 8, 2013 12:11:57 GMT -8
That video brings back fond memories of an epic year in Catocala collecting. I still can't believe I missed that one C. sappho. lol
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Post by collector on Dec 8, 2013 18:51:26 GMT -8
Wow, great video. Bedros
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Post by boghaunter1 on Dec 9, 2013 12:12:32 GMT -8
Hello Tom,
Very, very interesting & informative video... Thx. for posting. Would be awesome to spend some time in the hardwood forests of the eastern & southern U.S during "Cat" time... just so many large & beautiful spp. & forms of Catocala to discover. Kind of reminds me of the excitement in Holland's "The Moth Book" with his famous "Sugaring for Moths" short story. Here in central SK., CANADA I have only been able to collect 8 spp., in my yd., in old growth forest, in 37 yrs. & only half of those are considered common! Like the "Cat" catcher idea as well...
I would love to set up a light & sheet & especially try sugar baiting in good spots like that.... maybe you can make a few more videos, along those lines, in the coming season... but don't break a leg in the dark!
John K.
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Post by anthony on Dec 10, 2013 6:27:53 GMT -8
Wonderful video full of information and a state of the art kill jar.Always a pleasure to see collectors having a good day.
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Post by wingedwishes on Dec 10, 2013 11:04:41 GMT -8
Love the jar! My nephew asked me to change the name from "Kill Jar" to something less ominous. We came up with "Bio-Ender," "No-Vita," and "Total cessation of biological processes container." Then he somehow did not feel bad. Amazing what power a word as.
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Post by wingedwishes on Dec 10, 2013 11:07:20 GMT -8
I'm almost wondering if the jar would work better if there was a grove for the lid to close into.
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Post by beetlehorn on Dec 11, 2013 14:01:17 GMT -8
The trap door on the bottom of the catching device has a groove to slide into. It is cut about 2 cm from the edge. The only improvement I can think of is to have a separating door that would slide into place when the moth gets into the kill jar. This would prevent it from flying back into the larger container, but this thing worked quite well at the time.
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Post by bobw on Dec 12, 2013 8:34:35 GMT -8
Really interesting video! I wish we could find Catocalas like that here in Europe.
I was interested to hear the pronunciation of the genus with the stress on the 2nd syllable. Everyone I've heard in Europe pronounces it with the stress on the 1st & 3rd syllables.
Bob
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Post by vgashtarov on Dec 13, 2013 1:05:59 GMT -8
Wow we in europe only can dream about something like that. Where i live i only can find nupta. I ones caught a mormo maura Which is very rare where i live but it got away after making a picture. Greets Hello Jens, You can try to find Catocala near rivers, here in Europe their food plants for most "red" Catocala are Salix and Populus. Others prefer Quercus. Last July / August in the very center of Sofia during the day we found hundreds of Mormonia sponsa in a small park. It is not a first time when they can be found in large numbers in the parks. As for the Mormo maura - the best way to collect it is ... again near riverside and you must use sugarbait. The killing jar of beetlehorn in unique ;-) Here is the picture of Mormonia sponsa collected in the center of the town : www.flickr.com/photos/54831026@N05/9513608069/
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Post by oehlkew on Dec 13, 2013 5:11:46 GMT -8
Great "how to" video! Bill Oehlke
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Post by kingha on Apr 11, 2014 18:58:37 GMT -8
could you give us a description of how to make a collecting jar like the one you use in the video?
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Post by mothman27 on Nov 18, 2015 12:18:02 GMT -8
What makes the moths attracted to those trees?
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