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Post by o0osteve on Jan 17, 2014 8:03:40 GMT -8
Hi everyone.. especially those from the USA.
Taking a holiday in Clovis, Fresno County, California in May for three weeks to see some dear friends of mine.
I am wondering is there any restrictions on collecting Butterflies there and can i fetch them back to England.
I won't be collecting in any national parks as i don't want to get into trouble with the law.
Cheers
Steve
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Post by papilio28570 on Jan 28, 2014 15:32:15 GMT -8
You can collect in National Parks, but not State Parks. I have collected in Clovis, but that was 40 years ago and I am certain there is no resemblance to today's Clovis. I suggest searching with Google Earth to get a satellite view of the area and pin point your friends location. Then you can zoom in to different areas of the satellite view for a better idea of vegetative cover, river beds, etc.
As far as taking your specimens with you back to England, you can probably do so if only taking a few specimens of each species. Just place papered specimens in a plastic Tupperware container in your carry-on luggage. If you look like a commercial operator with several suitcases full of bugs, your lot will likely be taken.
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Post by leptraps on Jan 28, 2014 17:37:54 GMT -8
You CAN NOT collect in any National Park in the United States of America. If you do, brings lots of US dollars to pay the fine.
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Post by obewan on Jan 28, 2014 17:39:29 GMT -8
Pretty sure you can't collect in ANY parks...National or State!
obe
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Post by admin on Jan 29, 2014 9:01:34 GMT -8
Remember that in the USA there is a difference between national park, national forest, national monument, state park, and county park. As far as I know, collecting is allowed in the national forests but not in the other areas.
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Post by o0osteve on Jan 29, 2014 10:21:58 GMT -8
Thanks Guys
To be on the safe side i won't be collecting in any national, State or County anything.
Will be hard though as i am going to Yosmite and Tahoe but i am hiring a car for a couple of weeks so will be doing the tourist thing with net in hand.
Steve
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Post by Chris Grinter on Jan 29, 2014 21:56:12 GMT -8
National Forests are OK. The vast majority of wild land in California is a national forest and you will mostly be driving around Tahoe which is Tahoe National Forest, Toiyabe NF to the North and El Dorado NF to the south.
These are all OK.
While in Sequoia or Yosemite National Park don't even take the net from one part of your car to another. A ranger who sees a net will stop you, collecting in National Parks is illegal without permit.
There are not very many State Parks in California - none that you would really be encountering or that aren't surrounded by National Forest. These you can not collect in without permit (but it's not as serious of an offense as collecting in a National Park).
Happy Hunting!
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Post by joee30 on Jan 30, 2014 12:22:40 GMT -8
And if you are coming to the Tahoe area, there are a lot of nice collecting areas around there, both in the California side, and the Nevada side as well. PM me and I can give you a list of places.
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Post by jshuey on Jan 30, 2014 13:40:35 GMT -8
You asked about getting specimens back to England. This is really a factor of your laws regarding bringing the bugs into England. If you stick to National Forest and private lands - your specimens will all be legal. And the US really does not ask about what your are carrying out of the country - as long as it is not a threat to aviation.
So - as long as England does not care that you are transporting legally collected insects into the country - you should be good to go.
John
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 15:15:56 GMT -8
Can we expect the see photos of the specimens that you collect on your vacation here in the states after you get them spread?
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Post by multicaudata on May 11, 2014 0:02:35 GMT -8
Are you in California yet? Any luck so far? Get in touch! I live here so I know what's flying and where.
And yes, you can collect in National Forests and BLM land. I've collected in those areas in CA for years and never gotten in any trouble. (You can't collect in National Parks and State Parks, but the parks really take up relatively little land area, and are usually surrounded by miles and miles of equally good habitat that is National Forest.)
Good luck!
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