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Post by nomad on Feb 11, 2014 3:45:23 GMT -8
As you mentioned, I do see that most web-sites now now quote Ribbe as being the author of the description of C. alfacariensis. The Best British butterfly website U.K. Butterflies still gives Berger 1948. However as the name was Ribbes, he should be credited, but it does not alter the fact that it was Berger who was the one who found that the butterfly was a distinct species.
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Post by bobw on Feb 11, 2014 4:15:25 GMT -8
From the alfacariensis entry in our Colias book:
The name alfacariensis was unavailable from its first publication in 1905, because of Ribbe’s application of the prefix “ab.”, although it was discussed as a geographical form distinguishable from those that occur in other regions. Some authors considered the name validated because of the original application of the name for a “geographical form”, principally Reissinger (1971, 1987, 1989, 1990) and Reissinger & Wagener (1990). Some correctly maintained that if alfacariensis was deemed unavailable from its first publication by Ribbe (1905), it should still be considered available from the subsequent discussions by Ribbe (1906, 1907, 1910, 1912) wherein he gave it the status of “varietas”. Kudrna (1982) held a different opinion and discussed the situation at some length, claiming the oldest available name for the species to be alfacariensis Berger, 1948. At the time it seemed a correct and sensible solution to ascribe the species name to the Belgian lepidopterist who first recognised it as specifically distinct from C. hyale (Linnaeus, 1758), but this became irrelevant after a ruling of the IZCN. The proposal was eventually submitted that the IZCN should confirm the availability of the name, and so establish its priority over others such as australis Verity, 1911 and alfacariensis Berger, 1948 (Whitebread et al. 1988). The Commission did this in Opinion 1657 (ICZN 1991), by placing alfacariensis Ribbe, 1905 on the Official List of Specific Names in Zoology, therefore ending almost half a century of nomenclatural instability.
Bob
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Post by bobw on Feb 11, 2014 5:17:04 GMT -8
Just to complicate matters further, once we started researching the names we found three older names which take priority over alfacariensis. Not wanting to reopen that can of worms we applied to the commission to get them suppressed. This is the entry from the book:
Unfortunately however, C. alfacariensis Ribbe, 1905 is not the oldest available name; it is superseded by the overlooked sareptensis Alphéraky, 1875, alba Rühl, 1893 and meridionalis Krulikowsky, 1903. Because the substitution of C. sareptensis, C. alba, or C. meridionalis for the well-established “official” name of C. alfacariensis would cause much confusion, Grieshuber, Worthy & Lamas (2006) referred the case to the ICZN (Case 3334). With Opinion 2180 (ICZN 2007) the Commission ruled that the name alfacariensis Ribbe, 1905 is conserved by giving it precedence over the senior subjective synonyms C. hyale alba Rühl, 1893, C. hyale sareptensis Alphéraky, 1875 and C. hyale meridionalis Krulikowsky, 1903, whenever it and any of the other three are considered to be synonyms. The names hyrcanica Reissinger, 1989 and its junior homonym/synonym C. a. hyrcanica D. Weiss, 1990 are junior synonyms of C. a. alba Rühl, 1893. More information may be found in Grieshuber, Worthy & Lamas (2006).
The name sareptensis has been used instead of alfacariensis in some Russian publications in recent years, this ruling by the Commission makes such usage incorrect. I won't comment on the suitability of using a name such as alba as an available name for a Colias taxon!
Bob
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Post by nomad on Feb 23, 2014 10:38:13 GMT -8
Were L. hippothoe and L virgaureae ever BritishThere are a number of historic specimens of the Purple Edged Copper, Lycaena hippothoe in the Dale collection, but all could be fraudulent examples. Nevertheless, they remain valuable because of their age and they have an interesting story to tell. In the Dale collection there are three specimens of Lycaena hippothoe labelled as British. They have the data, Woodside, Epping - September 1818 from Dr Leach [ J.C.Dale.] In his British Entomology, John Curtis [1791-1862] wrote that L. hippothoe was abundant in August and September 1818 at Woodside in Epping. Dr Leach received a fine series of L. hippothoe from Epping during this period for several successive seasons. However, what Curtis, Dale and Dr Leach did not then realise, that the specimens of L. hippothoe may not come from the wilds of Epping, but from the breeding cages of a very shady dealer called George Plastead who lived there. George Plastead then of Chelsea, had laid down his ground work early because he reported that he had captured a single specimen of a new British insect L. hippothoe in a well known locality for other rare lepidoptera, Ashdown Forest in Sussex during 1808. J.C. Dale was a friend and a patron of the great entomological artist John Curtis. In 1825 Curtis and Dale made a collecting tour of Scotland, which at that time was hardly visited by entomologists and they discovered thirty unknown species of insects. In the Dale collection there is also a series of eight specimens of Lycaena virgaureae [Linnaeus 1758], which was known to the early British collectors as the Scarce Copper. Was this species ever British? There are a number of specimens of L. virgaureae in historical British collections. Are some of them genuine British examples or are they all fraudulent and were they provided by disreputable dealers, which in the 19th century so plagued the entomological community. As the butterfly fauna was not then entirely known, those dishonest characters were eager to make money from unsuspecting collectors who were so eager to add any new British butterflies to their collection. One female in the Dale collection, which has a very old British entomological pin, has the data C.H. Capel-Cure, Cromer, Norfolk - August 26 1868. Two specimens have L. dispar localities: one has the data Isle of Ely, Yaxley, Dr Leach , the latter was very eminent and highly regarded entomologist, but he is known to have purchased specimens from that rogue George Plastead, the other specimen is labelled the Haworth sale, Isle of Ely, 1824. The five others are labelled Museum Bloomsbury from James Francis Stephens . Stephens [1792-1852] helped curate the early insect collections at the British Museum. If this species was once British, why are there no recorded written accounts by the legion of collectors who operated in the 19th century. Perhaps their silence on this matter speaks volumes. Lycaena hippothoe - Dale collection. Lycaena virgaureae - Dale collection.
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Post by nomad on Feb 28, 2014 11:03:17 GMT -8
The Bedford Large Blue In the first year that the Reverend Charles Abbot [ 1761-1817 ] decided to become an Aurelian [ an early name for British Entomologists], he went into his local Clapham Park woods near Bedford in the June of 1798 and discovered a butterfly new to Britain, the Chequered Skipper [ Caterocephalus palaemon.] His run of good fortune continued, for soon afterwards in the Mouse's pasture of the limestone Ouse valley at Bromham near Bedford, he discovered a colony of the rare Large Blue [ Maculinea arion]. In 1817 ,while Dale was travelling, he stayed at the local Swan inn in Bedford where he apparently saw the late Charles Abbot's collection, which he purchased. In the Dale collection there is a very fine series of Large Blues from Langport in Somerset and from Barnwell Wold in Northamptonshire. In 1819, Dale visited the Mouse's pasture at Bromham in 1819 and took only one specimen of M. arion. The specimen that Dale captured may have been the last recorded example from that locality. What became of the Dale specimen from Bromham remains a mystery, because the only specimen with Bedford placed at its side, is in fact a specimen of M. alcon. Although the M. alcon is a fine specimen considering the early date, the M. alcon it is missing its abdomen. [ See the further post on the M. alcon Dale specimen ]. It is not known what became of the specimens of Maculinea arion that Charles Abbot collected at Bromham, they may have been in poor condition and J.C. Dale or C.W. Dale may have not wanted to include them in his main collection. It is easy to picture James Dale on a pleasant far off summer's day in 1819 or Charles Abbot on earlier visits, quietly strolling down the gently sloping valley Ouse Valley in Bedfordshire to look for Maculinea arion among the anthills of that long vanished unimproved pasture. For more on the Charles Abbot see the following I. podalirius post. James Charles Dale.
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Post by nomad on Feb 28, 2014 11:24:10 GMT -8
Was Iphiclides podalirius ever BritishIphiclides podalirius [ Linnaeus 1758 ] is known in Britain as the Scarce Swallowtail because there have been very few records of this fine butterfly. Iphiclides podalirius was first mentioned as British as far back as 1710. Most works quote that the first authoritative record of a capture of this species in Britain was by the Reverend Charles Abbot at Clapham Park Wood near Bedford in May 1803. Abbot also mentions that he saw another Scarce Swallowtail shortly afterwards, but missed it. Dale acquired the I. podalirius specimen when he purchased the Charles Abbot collection in 1817. Abbot seems to have been fortunate with finding rare immigrants because he also took a Pontia daplidice and a Issoria lathonia in the nearby Gamlingay Wood a month later in June 1803. Both specimens are in the Dale collection and like Abbot's I. podalirius specimen are in very poor condition and were probably only included because of their extreme rarity and historical interest. Did the Reverend Abbot take a genuine vagrant I. podalirius one sunny day in Clapham Park Wood. Those that read the Bedford Large Blue article in this thread, will know that Abbot discovered the new British skipper Carterocephalus palaemon in the same wood in 1798 and he appears to have been a highly regarded naturalist who also wrote a Flora of Bedfordshire in 1798. However, when Dale examined the Abbot collection, he also found two exotic Skippers Hesperia bucephalus and Pyrgus oileus that were also taken in Clapham Park Wood. So what was going on! To some, Abbot's reputation was tarnished by the unusual rarities that he had captured. It seems to me, and as others have suggested, the dear Reverend had been the target of the activities of an entomologist who was not looking for new species, but carefully releasing them. The most likely candidate was the entomological dealer George Plastead , who was known to have released species for others to find. There would have been nothing better than to have a distinguished naturalist, who had already found a new and local butterfly, capture others that were new or rare to the British list. When the dealer sold others of the same species, if there was any question of them being genuine he could point out the captures of the Reverend at Bedford. The wealthy Reverend Frederick William Hope [1797-1862 ] who founded the Hope Department and Entomological collections at Oxford, took a specimen of Iphiclides podalirius at Netley in Shropshire on the 14th September 1822. Hope wrote to C.W.Dale " my own successes have far outran my expectations, & it will be a piece of news to inform you that I have captured the long desired & doubted Papilio podalirius, since then I have seen another on the wing, but could not obtain it". Over the next six years Hope saw I. podalirius at Netley. So somewhere near his home Allan [1980] suggested there must have been a breeding population. In 1829 Hope saw another specimen of his Scarce Swallowtail feeding on fallen fruit but missed it. One of the specimens of I. podalirius that Hope captured at Netley survives at in the entomological department Oxford which he founded . There has been much speculation as to the origin of the Netley specimens. Salmon [2000] mention that a lady at nearby Longnor painted butterflies including this species, so did she release those specimens that Hope took? We will never know. The Charles Abbot I. podalirius specimen from Bedford 1803. A fine plate of I. podalirius by the great artist John Curtis. From his British Entomology 1820-1840.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 11:35:08 GMT -8
Just out of interest Peter, how difficult is it to see the Dale collection, I am down that way in june?
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Post by nomad on Feb 28, 2014 11:58:16 GMT -8
Hi dunc, they do behind the seen tours around that time, but if you really want to see the Dale collection you could try the email I will PM you. By the Way I have finally gained permission to visit the Delias collection at the British Museum this coming Tuesday.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 12:07:20 GMT -8
Thanks Peter.
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Post by nomad on Mar 2, 2014 4:37:34 GMT -8
I do hope some of you are enjoying the history and specimens of these historic British Insects. The first British Cupido argiadesThe Short-tailed Blue - Cupido argiades is a common species in Central and Southern Europe, but it is a very rare immigrant to Britain with just 17 recorded. This species was first noted as new to Britain in 1885 when the entomologist Reverend O. Pickard Cambridge and his son captured two specimens on Bloxworth Heath near Wareham in Dorset. For many years British entomologists knew this species as the Bloxworth Blue. The same year Philip Tudor took a specimen in his garden in the nearby coastal town of Bournemouth. Because of the sudden interest of a new butterfly for Britain, the Reverend J. Seymour St John recorded in the journal ' The Entomologist ' that he had discovered that a male and a female had been taken by a Dr Marsh in a quarry two miles from his home at Whatley near Frome in Somerset during 1874. These two specimens were acquired for the Dale collection and were figued by E.B. Ford in his New Naturalist volume ' Butterflies ' in 1945. The pair from Bloxworth are also in the collections at Oxford and can be viewed at this link. www.ukbutterflies.co.uk/species_historic.php?genus=Cupido&species=argiades&subspecies=argiades&form=argiadesCupido argiades pair from Whatley, Somerset 1874. Dale collection. Two other British specimens of Cupido argiades in a private collection. Ah, I wonder what Worldwide Butterflies would sell that specimen of C. argiades for today, and Abbey butterflies located in the old market-Roman town of Cirencester. I had many pleasant days in their shop taking butterflies during the 1980's.
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Post by jensb on Mar 4, 2014 1:45:17 GMT -8
Thnx nomad For this awesome topic just read the howle topic. Took me while Greets jens P.s. have fun today
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Post by nomad on Mar 8, 2014 0:32:14 GMT -8
When I write articles I try to get accurate references, however sometimes mistakes do occur especially in the case of a post here - The Bedford Large Blue. Because Bedford was placed at its side , I took this for a variety of M. arion although M. alcon is also clearly seen on the labels placed above the specimen. Dale recorded that he took a single specimen of M. arion at Bedford in 1819 and was in his collection, although this is clearly not that specimen, but in fact a specimen of Maculinea alcon, a species not known to be British. What has become of Dale's single M. arion specimen remains a mystery. All the early British entomologists took the alcon specimen to be a variety of M. arion, which it is certainly not. James Walker of Oxford rightly thought that this is a specimen of M. alcon in his review of the Dale collection in the Entomologist for 1907. In the register of the collection that was kept by C.W. Dale, the alcon specimen was captured in the early 19th century at Cliefden in Buckinghamshire by a Mr H. Jones and was given to the famous British entomologist Haworth and then later acquired at the sale of the collection by C.W. Dale. So where did this specimen really originate from- was it really caught in the Chilterns or was it given to Jones from another source. If there was once an ancient British population of the M. alcon, why is there only one specimen. It has been suggested because there are coastal populations of M. alcon in Holland it might have been blown or flown across the channel, but then one would have expected the capture to have been made on the Kent coast not many miles inland. when I have time I will rewrite the Large Blue article. Peter. The Maculinea alcon specimen in the Dale collection. British example?
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Post by smallcopper on Mar 26, 2014 1:39:34 GMT -8
When I write articles I try to get accurate references, however sometimes mistakes do occur especially in the case of a post here - The Bedford Large Blue. Because Bedford was placed at its side , I took this for a variety of M. arion although M. alcon is also clearly seen on the labels placed above the specimen. Dale recorded that he took a single specimen of M. arion at Bedford in 1819 and was in his collection, although this is clearly not that specimen, but in fact a specimen of Maculinea alcon, a species not known to be British. What has become of Dale's single M. arion specimen remains a mystery. All the early British entomologists took the alcon specimen to be a variety of M. arion, which it is certainly not. James Walker of Oxford rightly thought that this is a specimen of M. alcon in his review of the Dale collection in the Entomologist for 1907. In the register of the collection that was kept by C.W. Dale, the alcon specimen was captured in the early 19th century at Cliefden in Buckinghamshire by a Mr H. Jones and was given to the famous British entomologist Haworth and then later acquired at the sale of the collection by C.W. Dale. So where did this specimen really originate from- was it really caught in the Chilterns or was it given to Jones from another source. If there was once an ancient British population of the M. alcon, why is there only one specimen. It has been suggested because there are coastal populations of M. alcon in Holland it might have been blown or flown across the channel, but then one would have expected the capture to have been made on the Kent coast not many miles inland. when I have time I will rewrite the Large Blue article. Peter. View AttachmentThe Maculinea alcon specimen in the Dale collection. British example? Another PM coming your way shortly, Peter! I can help fill in some of the blanks on the M.arion / M.alcon story... Jon
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Post by smallcopper on Mar 26, 2014 1:41:30 GMT -8
I'm also forgetting my manners. Thanks so much for taking the time to compile this thread, Peter. It's a fabulous read, and I'm enjoying it immensely. I think it must have passed me by when I was away in Ecuador earlier this year, or I'd have been all over it like a rash at the time.
Jon
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Post by nomad on Mar 26, 2014 10:28:13 GMT -8
Hi Jon Thank you for your kind comments and PM. The Dale collection of British insects is so important that it certainly deserves to be reviewed and the historical treasures that it contains shown to a wider audience.
Peter.
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