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Post by hellanichus on Apr 12, 2014 14:21:14 GMT -8
Greetings everyone. I received this specimen with collecting data P glaucus. However, I have seen many specimens of glaucus and this looks quite different. Any help would be appreciated to get a specific definitive ID. Thank You Attachments:
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Post by Adam Cotton on Apr 13, 2014 0:52:04 GMT -8
Where is it from, and when was it collected? Or perhaps you meant that there was only a label "P. glaucus" without other data?
An underside photo would also be helpful.
Adam.
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Post by hellanichus on Apr 13, 2014 13:24:08 GMT -8
Hello, it was labeled p glaucus with no additional data.
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Post by teinopalpus on Apr 14, 2014 1:25:28 GMT -8
It is problem, data are always important. As for me, your specimen is very similar to my Papilio glaucus ssp.garcia / for some authors Papilio alexiares ssp.gracia / from North Mexico. You can see also here butterfliesofamerica.com/t/Papilio_alexiares_a.htmBut also some specimens of Papilio rutulus are similar - underside can really help with separation of these two. Jan |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Apr 14, 2014 5:12:13 GMT -8
An indication of size would also help, along with the underside photo. Put a measure along the bottom of the specimen when you take the photo, or if it is easier tell us the wingspan.
Adam.
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Post by leptraps on Apr 15, 2014 7:31:52 GMT -8
I just compared the specimen in the photograph with thespecimes in my collection. I have a long series of Papilio glaucus from OH, PA, VA, WV, KY, MS, GA, FL, IN & IL. I have specomens that match perfectly. I think the specimen in the photograph well marked.
I also have series from west Texas, and several specimens of Papilio alexiares garcia which are different altogether.
It looks like a papilio glaucus.
The vast majority of my collection is North American material. I do have some material from northern Mexico. However, I was fortunate to be able to collect in the Rio Grande Valley and west Texas. I collected or reared all of my specimens of Papilio glaucus and Papilio alexiares in my collection.
I also compared them to Papilio glaucus maynardi. Again a close match. However, Papilio glaucus maynardi is huge. A locality would have helped.
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Post by hellanichus on Apr 15, 2014 9:50:12 GMT -8
Hello, I contacted again the dealer where I obtained the specimen and he now indicated that the specimen is glaucus ssp garcia. I greatly appreciate all of the comments on this post. I have learned so much on this board posting questions and just reading some of the posts.
Richard
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