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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2014 8:04:41 GMT -8
[attachment id="11494" thumbnail= A specimen of the white admiral ladoga camilla taken by F W Frohawk, New Forest Hampshire 1894. Attachments:
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Post by nomad on Apr 13, 2014 23:41:55 GMT -8
Frederick William Frohawk 1861 -1946 was without doubt one of the most important British lepidopterists who ever lived . He produced stunning books and was a brillant illustrator. It must be nice to own some of his butterflies that he actually captured and set dunc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2014 0:01:54 GMT -8
Very reasonable too Peter, they had to be I took very little money or I would have bought the whole case, there were about 10 other specimens, the labels, although simple are very special,
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Post by colin12303 on Apr 19, 2014 2:19:40 GMT -8
A couple of F.W.Frowhawk specimens from my collection Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 2:36:22 GMT -8
Lovely Colin.
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Post by smallcopper on May 21, 2014 7:02:08 GMT -8
A couple of F.W.Frowhawk specimens from my collection I see there's a FWF M.arion on Ebay at the moment - it's been listed several times in the past week or two, with an un-met reserve and, briefly, a Buy-It-Now of £150. Am a sucker for all things FWF related, but the data label didn't look quite right to me so, innate cautious so-and-so that I am, I've steered clear. It's probably pukka, but I demand impeccable provenance where M.arion's concerned. These lovely ones look bang on the money. Jealous!
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Post by nomad on May 21, 2014 8:50:31 GMT -8
I agree those that are looking for historic British specimens, have to be careful.
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Post by colin12303 on May 25, 2014 1:25:40 GMT -8
The main difference between my ones and the one on ebay is mine are not for sale,so you can look and enjoy them for what they are. Saying that offer me enough money and everything is for sale my wife has told me.
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Post by beetlehorn on May 25, 2014 3:19:42 GMT -8
That is a wonderful specimen Dunc. I'm always amazed how fresh a butterfly can look after so much time. Congrats on owning something so special, you know the value will only go up as time goes on. Iv'e never been there, but I have to wonder if the area of New Forest Hampshire still holds a population of L. Camilla. According to some of the photos in Google Earth, there seems to be suitable habitat. Please pardon my ignorance of the area, but this is one of the things I wonder about when I see specimens taken so long ago.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 4:55:20 GMT -8
Tom, yes L Camilla does still occur in the New Forest and is one of the few butterflies in the UK which has actually spread over the last 30 years. I have specimens 150+ years old that look as fresh as when they were caught, I suppose it just depends on how they are kept. Picking up on Colin and Peters point on the provenance of old historic specimens, I would not even consider purchasing m arion or any other species if I was not 100% sure of its validity, I am fortunate to have such sources, in fact if the ebay arion is genuine I would say £150 is a bargain but it is a big IF.
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