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Post by crino on May 22, 2014 10:13:13 GMT -8
I agree with you dunc01226, heavenly P. krishna thawgawa is one of my favourites!  |
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Post by lordpandarus on May 22, 2014 14:35:45 GMT -8
P. blumei and P. ulysses are gorgeous of course, but now a bit underrated since they are so easy to get
Anyone has a good picture of Papilio polyctor polyctor? that's a nice one
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Post by ash on May 22, 2014 15:50:58 GMT -8
P. blumei and P. ulysses are gorgeous of course, but now a bit underrated since they are so easy to get Anyone has a good picture of Papilio polyctor polyctor? that's a nice one Yes I have to agree. If Papilio blumei or Papilio ulysses were hard to obtain we would probably consider them among the most beautiful of all insects. I think our aesthetic is naturally drawn to the rare, the things we don't often see. Papilio blumei clearly has the best tails in the whole Achillides group. And as for Papilio ulysses - well it has the brightest colours of the lot I think. Here are Papilio ulysses autolycus from Timika. This one is my favourite female of this P. ulysses subspecies in my collection as it has lots of blue flashes in the hind wings.  Ash |
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 23, 2014 10:17:35 GMT -8
Second photo : last column on the right : P. perantus peranthus from Bali (Ubud vicinity). See the much smaller size than with P. peranthus insulicola from Sulawesi (= the "Island of giant butterflies", especially for Papilionidae). The Sulawesi Papilio peranthus is ssp. adamantius. The confusion arose from Tsukada & Nishiyama (1980 & 1982(English edition)) treating insulicola as coming from Southern Sulawesi. This is probably due to Rothschild's stated type locality "Saleyer, south of Celebes". I assume Tsukada & Nishiyama misunderstood this to mean Saleyer AND S Sulawesi, hence they included it in the distribution of insulicola, which is actually quite different to adamantius. Adam. |
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 23, 2014 10:22:40 GMT -8
Anyone has a good picture of Papilio polyctor polyctor? that's a nice one There is no such thing, polyctor is just the NW Himalayan subspecies of Papilio bianor. DNA studies have confirmed it, and breeding studies on other so called subspecies of polyctor show they are the same species as bianor as well. Adam. |
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Post by robert61 on May 23, 2014 12:06:10 GMT -8
Papilio bianor polyctor male from India, Kulu Robert Attachments:
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Post by papalidar on May 23, 2014 14:14:47 GMT -8
another good picture of papilio bianor polyctor from Himachal Pradesh  Attachments:
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Post by crino on May 23, 2014 22:16:38 GMT -8
Some precious P. bianor polyctor from Pakistan and India   |
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Post by crino on May 24, 2014 3:13:04 GMT -8
P. bianor polyctor male from India  P. bianor kotoensis from Taiwan  |
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Post by hewi on Jun 12, 2014 8:23:27 GMT -8
very hard to get: a female of Papilio karna carnatus, as beautiful as rare Manfred  |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jun 12, 2014 10:23:02 GMT -8
Superb!
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Post by hewi on Jun 12, 2014 14:38:36 GMT -8
Adam thanks,
and it really must be a very rare creature,
because it took me more than 30 years to get
a female of carnatus.
And since 1982, the always delightful illustration
before my eyes on the slipcase of "Butterflies of the
South East Asian Islands, Vol 1"! what a pain! (LOL)
I only had the good fortune that our friend "panzerman"
has given up his collection so suddenly ....
Manfred
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Post by crino on Jun 15, 2014 6:29:45 GMT -8
wow
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Post by ash on Jun 15, 2014 15:29:02 GMT -8
Beautiful!
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Post by lordpandarus on Jun 16, 2014 0:20:08 GMT -8
Is it different from the females of the other P.karna ssp?
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