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Post by bluemoth on Feb 22, 2011 13:49:20 GMT -8
This is my first time rearing sticks. They hatched from eggs that were sent to me. Three babies have died. One of these was eating some leaf and all had drunk some water droplets. Symptoms are they stop moving and then become paralyzed and can not move at all in about 12 to 24 hours.. They keep the same color and stay limp for a number of days after they stop moving. I keep each one separate in air tight containers. Is it possible that they are to moist? Could they be picking up bacteria or fungal spores on the leaves that is killing them? Could they be getting ready to shed skins for the first time? They range in age from 1 week to 3 weeks old. Out of the 4 others I have two have eaten leaves and two have not. The leaves they are eating is ornamental cherry with the burgundy leaves. Willow was suggested as a first plant to try but was rejected by sticks. What should I do to save the remaining baby sticks?
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Post by wingedwishes on Feb 22, 2011 18:01:39 GMT -8
I would try some other food sources. Some walkers eat maple where I live. Humid and warm may cause a problem but I don't know.
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Post by bichos on Mar 18, 2011 5:06:02 GMT -8
WOW bluemoth did I read 'air tight' is that the live ones you keep them seperate in air tight containers? if so DON'T they need out now!
They will need good ventilation and from experience you do not need to keep them in individual containers, I would get a bunch of different plant cuttings that you suspect to be potential food plants (as suggested by Wingedwishes). And put these together in a jar with water making sure there are no spaces for them to crawl into the jar and drown. Place the jar and plants in a larger container with good airation or a mesh sleeve. As far as drinking try a fine water mist only once or twice a day.
Are they not feeding at all? as if they do not feed they will not be able to molt.
hope it helps
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Post by jackblack on Jul 20, 2011 3:06:30 GMT -8
How are the baby sticks going now ?
I agree with info from Bichos 100%
But when asking about help/ info for your sticks, would be good to know what species you are dealing with ?
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Post by jackblack on Jul 20, 2011 3:07:21 GMT -8
How are the baby sticks going now ?
I agree with info from Bichos 100%
But when asking about help/ info for your sticks, would be good to know what species you are dealing with ?
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Post by bluemoth on Jul 20, 2011 12:55:00 GMT -8
I did not know folks were still interested in what happened to the Sticks. Sadly all hatchlings died. Each one that learned to eat the leaves thrived for about 4 or 5 days. Then sadly each baby started to fail. They started to be un able to walk or eat and became what appeared to be paralised over 3 or 4 days. All eventuly died. My best guess as to the cause could be a fungus or bacterea that was on the tree leaves may be the cause of death. The area I live in is not in thier native range so they had no natural resistence to fungus or bactearea that lives here. Do not remember the name but they were the largest native sticks of the USA.
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Post by bichos on Jul 24, 2011 6:38:38 GMT -8
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Post by wingedwishes on Jul 24, 2011 22:41:50 GMT -8
Bacterial infections are common to some of the moths I raise when the humidity is high. Consentrations of hatchlings causes the disease to spread quickly through contact. If there were alot of leaves in airtight containers, the leaves may have respired and used up the oxygen too. Plants generate carbon dioxide by much the same mechanism as animals. They combine glucose with oxygen in many steps to make carbon dioxide especially at night. Sorry to hear about them expiring.
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Post by babynoah20 on Dec 11, 2012 12:57:30 GMT -8
PLEASE READ!!!! I AM SEARCHING FOR YOU!!! My sweet little 8 year old is doing a bug unit in school. He adopted 4 babies & lovely big walking stick (the size of my hand or bigger). We have had them about 4 weeks now. They are in a butterfly (upright fully screened habitat. They have sticks to climb, fresh lettuce & water sprits daily. Our big girl all of a sudden just stopped moving. We found her upside down yesterday and picked her up and she is very sluggish. I believe she is full grown and is probably coming to her end of time.  IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO FOR HER? THIS IS SO SAD! I called the local critter vet and I think they thought I was crazy. I do not want her to suffer.... |
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Post by babynoah20 on Dec 11, 2012 12:59:47 GMT -8
Sorry this was for wingedwishes or jackblack...any of you experienced stick owners.
THANK YOU!!!!
You can email me at babynoah20@hotmail.com
Not sure if this is allowed in the forum. Sorry I am new to this but looking for answers.
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Post by lilstinkpot on Jan 12, 2013 11:23:14 GMT -8
For both cases, has anyone ruled out pesticides?
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Post by wingedwishes on Jan 15, 2013 11:09:15 GMT -8
Tough to do unless you grow your own plants. I did not see this post before now and so I apologise for taking a month to respond. Iceberg lettuce has nearly no nutritional value. Not a good food for walkers. Darker types such as Romaine or Kale are better. I've had a little success with wild grape leaves and cassia species.
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Post by lilstinkpot on Jan 15, 2013 17:43:01 GMT -8
During my one short foray into Phasmid husbandry, I had great success with blackberry leaves, I still have the raspberry I bought for them, right before the cay broke into the bin.
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IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO FOR HER? THIS IS SO SAD!