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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 11:31:44 GMT -8
Is this B. lineolata? just curious with it having the orange markings? cheers pete Attachments:
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Post by bandrow on Sept 5, 2014 17:39:41 GMT -8
Greetings,
It appears to be Batocera lineolata - it looks a bit like B. horsfieldi as well, but I'd bet on lineolata.
The orange seems to be the natural coloration in many (maybe all?) species of Batocera when alive. I've never seen them in the field, but many images of live adults show this coloration. The red or pink nearly always fades to white after death except in certain specimens that hold their color for a while. I've recieved several specimens with nice reddish markings, but all have faded over the years - only one specimen of victoriana still has a subtle pinkish tone.
Cheers!
Bandrow
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Post by prillbug4 on Sept 16, 2014 17:11:46 GMT -8
I totally agree. It matches my specimens. I have quite a series of them.
Jeff Prill
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Post by Adam Cotton on Sept 17, 2014 8:09:29 GMT -8
The orange seems to be the natural coloration in many (maybe all?) species of Batocera when alive. I've never seen them in the field, but many images of live adults show this coloration. Cheers! Bandrow I remember when light trapping many years ago that there were white-spotted, reddish-spotted and bright yellow-spotted Batocera species here in Chiang Mai, Thailand. At least I assume they were all Batocera species. Adam. |
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Post by bandrow on Sept 18, 2014 5:18:04 GMT -8
Hi Adam,
I envy you having seen Batocera coming to a light - must be quite a sight in the wild!
I've noticed that fresh Batocera roylei often have bright yellow markings, as well as some B. horsfieldi. Have you seen enough specimens alive to know if certain species are yellow and others red, or can it vary in a single species?
Cheers!
Bandrow
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Post by Adam Cotton on Sept 18, 2014 8:49:38 GMT -8
Bandrow, Sorry I can't answer that question, it was many years ago and back then I was studying Sphingidae so the Batocera were more of a nuisance than anything else.  Adam. PS. I am not familiar with the different species of Batocera either. |
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Post by bandrow on Sept 20, 2014 9:58:45 GMT -8
Hi Adam,
Batocera can occasionally be difficult to ID even when one knows them well. Like in many of the 'collector-favorite' groups - Ornithoptera, Dynastes, etc. - their variability and distribution patterns have led to rampant overdescription, in my opinion.
BTW, I would love the chance to experience a situation where Batocera were a nuisance! I would imagine one would make short order of any lep! Here in the states, I've seen what mere Phyllophaga can do in a light trap, after "butter-churning" the moths all night...
Cheers!
Bob
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 16:26:31 GMT -8
it seems that the orange markings are what the collectors want. this specimen did quite well in the auction to say it was a female
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