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Post by timmsyrj on Nov 25, 2014 22:53:54 GMT -8
Cheers Dave, I got the specimens from Laos a couple of years ago from insectsale, they've not had any more since, I've checked regularly.. Did you get the neumogeni from tibet the other day, I saw them on eBay but I was at work when the auctions ended, no wifi at work.
I've recently set some stichopthalma sparta evansi which I got from Ken Thorne which are nice, interestingly I got 6 specimens from yunnan (only data) which look very similar to the sparta evansi specimens.. Photo's will follow.
Keep an eye out for fruhstorferi next year on eBay, I've had a word with Thanh to try and get to the Tam Dao mountains so fingers are crossed, he's also doing some research into new / remote locations during the wet season so may have some good specimens, with those devyatkini only just being descovered who knows what lurks in them forests..
Rich
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Post by timmsyrj on Jan 14, 2015 8:10:26 GMT -8
just launched today so hopefully the following link will work, I welcome any comments and if you have specimen photo's you would like to donate for the site please let me know, also any specimens that I'm missing would be more than welcome. stichophthalma.simdif.commany thanks, Rich |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 12:33:30 GMT -8
Good looking site Rich, I browsed around and everything appears to be working great.
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Post by wollastoni on Jan 14, 2015 12:36:42 GMT -8
Great site
But there is an H missing : opht
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 14, 2015 13:34:29 GMT -8
Are you treating mathilda as a separate species to louisa?
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 15, 2015 2:53:13 GMT -8
Great site But there is an H missing : opht Yes, I checked Hemming, 1967 and the correct spelling is Stichophthalma. I sent a link to the site to Yutaka Inayoshi, and he said that he liked it. Adam. |
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Post by wollastoni on Jan 15, 2015 5:00:53 GMT -8
Sure, "ophthalmós" in Ancient Greek means "eye"
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 15, 2015 6:07:40 GMT -8
Sure, "ophthalmós" in Ancient Greek means "eye" Yes, of course it does. Thanks for reminding us of the derivation of the genus name. Regardless of the derivation, the correct spelling really depends on the published original description, which is why works such as Hemming, 1967 (The Generic Names of the Butterflies and their Type-Species (Lepidoptera: Rhopalocera). Bulletin of the British Museum (Natural History) Entomology: Supplement 9) are so important. Adam. |
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Post by timmsyrj on Jan 15, 2015 10:41:42 GMT -8
Great site But there is an H missing : opht Whoops! Quite correct Wollastoni, it's obviously a mistake I've made throughout and shall get around to rectifying it when I'm off the 12 hour shifts on Monday, looks like I've got quite a lot of editing to do. In the mean time I'm glad you like it, I will add more as and when I get new specimens, but if anyone can help with photo's of the missing species I would be very grateful. Rich |
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Post by timmsyrj on Jan 15, 2015 11:45:08 GMT -8
Are you treating mathilda as a separate species to louisa? Adam. To be honest I have no idea, I go by literature I've read ( which I must read a little more closely seeing as I've missed the "H" out) some authors class them all as a sub species of louisa and others treat them as individual species, also some class those from Lampang and Wang Chin as a separate species to mathilda. If those from Laos, Thailand and Vietnam are all mathilda then it is obviously an extremely variable sub species or species, if mathilda can be as variable as this then I would have thought siamensis and ranhongensis are nothing more than another variation of mathilda. This is partly why I've done this site as this genus is very confusing especially if those far more qualified than me disagree over identity. But with sub species and/or species photo's missing it won't help completely but will hopefully clear it up a little. Rich |
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Post by Adam Cotton on Jan 15, 2015 13:09:15 GMT -8
The reason I asked is because sometimes you call it S. louisa mathilda and others just S. mathilda, so it is unclear how you treat the taxon in the website. I agree that the taxonomy of Stichophthalma is still confusing, especially with the recent addition of many new taxa from Vietnam. You should try to be consistent throughout the website, whether you decide to treat it as a species or subspecies.
I asked Inayoshi about mathilda from Thailand and Laos, and he said that they do seem a little different, and if they are considered significantly different it would be the Thai population that would require a new name.
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Post by timmsyrj on Feb 11, 2015 6:24:06 GMT -8
Nishimura simply calls those from Wang Chin and Mea Mo Stichophthalma louisa spp. And says that these differ from siamensis by being much darker with more developed markings and mentions the "black louisa" which is a form from this area, I've seen them but not got any yet. He doesn't mention them as mathilda or even similar to them so he apparently treats them as differnt.
Hopefully when the new paper comes out later this year it will shed some light on this issue, maybe they are all louisa s.sp or completely differnt species, personally (and i'm no expert here) I think fruhstorferi, uemurai, cambodia and godfreyii are related as all have virtually identicle underside markings only varying in colour shades ranging from light brown recto to blue the further south and west you go starting from North Vietnam, moving south through Vietnam and Cambodia into southern Thailand and Myanmar.
I have up dated my website with some additional photo's but here is one for you, it's Stichophthalma neumogeni renqingduojiei from Tibet. I do think though that this looks a little similar to photo's i've seen of Stichophthalma nourmahal ( there is a link on my site to Stichophthalma nourinissa which I hadn't heard of until recently).
Rich
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Post by timmsyrj on Feb 11, 2015 6:26:03 GMT -8
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