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Post by mygos on Nov 3, 2014 5:29:39 GMT -8
We are very pleased to announce the publication of a new title by Michel LIBERT : Sur la taxonomie du genre Celaenorrhinus en Afrique (Lepidoptera, Hesperiidae) 270 pages, 26 full colour plates, 54 figures et 53 maps Published by the author with support from A.B.R.I. Price : 75 euros + shipping charges according to destination. Exclusive distribution by ourselves, Michel BEAURAIN M.J.B., Librairie Top Duck 134 rue Abel Gody Z.I. de la Boitardiere 37400 Amboise, 02 47 57 63 63 e-mail : direction@topduck.fr site web : www.topduck.frA+, Michel
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Post by cabintom on Nov 3, 2014 7:14:09 GMT -8
Cool. Sadly, I doubt I'll ever be able to afford these revisions.
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Post by mygos on Nov 3, 2014 7:17:48 GMT -8
Price can seem to be high, but 270 pages with 26 colour plates printed in small quantity, i.e. less than a hundred is a real bargain !
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Post by cabintom on Nov 3, 2014 10:44:06 GMT -8
Yeah, I don't doubt that there's a good reason for the price... it's just too bad it's too much for me.
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Post by cabintom on Nov 13, 2014 21:01:07 GMT -8
Price can seem to be high, but 270 pages with 26 colour plates printed in small quantity, i.e. less than a hundred is a real bargain ! A+, Michel Are there digital copies of these available for sale?
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Post by mygos on Nov 13, 2014 23:13:57 GMT -8
Price can seem to be high, but 270 pages with 26 colour plates printed in small quantity, i.e. less than a hundred is a real bargain ! A+, Michel Are there digital copies of these available for sale? Sorry Tom, no digital version ! But you know, I am an antiquarian book dealer A+, Michel
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Post by mygos on Nov 15, 2014 10:20:03 GMT -8
I just had the confirmation from Michel LIBERT that only 75 copies will be printed ! Don't wait too long before placing your order ...
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Post by nomihoudai on Nov 15, 2014 18:36:24 GMT -8
What purpose does a "book" serve if only 75 copies are printed? Seriously,... is Hesperiidae research some private club that only the chosen can enter? Disappointed greetings...
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Post by cabintom on Nov 15, 2014 18:53:41 GMT -8
What purpose does a "book" serve if only 75 copies are printed? Seriously,... is Hesperiidae research some private club that only the chosen can enter? Disappointed greetings... I assume it's simply due to an anticipated very low demand... which is too bad, because, I also assume, it means that the price is higher to compensate for printing costs.
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Post by nomihoudai on Nov 16, 2014 0:55:25 GMT -8
Well the demand may be too low to serve a big initial market, but the book will be needed by more people in the future at which point it will be sold out and unobtainable. I have gone through too much hassle to find and obtain books that have just been 20 years around. The initial (and only) edition was quickly sold among friends and acquaintances of the author or the few major museums scattered around Europe. Any young aspiring researcher could just go and screw himself or drive hundreds of kilometers to the next library to copy the book. Sorry, this has caused me so much grief that this is the nicest I can come up with.
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Post by bichos on Nov 16, 2014 2:03:25 GMT -8
45 new species, that's significant. What a shame there will only be 75 copies published. Whilst I don't collect Leps, the Hesperidae would be amongst my favorites and am thus tempted to buy a copy
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Post by mygos on Nov 16, 2014 3:05:24 GMT -8
What purpose does a "book" serve if only 75 copies are printed? Seriously,... is Hesperiidae research some private club that only the chosen can enter? Disappointed greetings... No private club Nomihoudai, but just a question of money ! As no editor is interested in the printing of such small market books, The author is printing his own books at his own cost ! With its last book published in 2013 on Lycaenidae genus Aphnaeus, we sold only 23 copies so far ... (Some additional copies have been given to some people who contributed to the work. 100 copies were printed, and the printer has been paid, which means that Michel LIBERT has some money sitting on a shelf. He is not a rich man and cannot afford for more copies. He prefer to work on his next monography. You are right in saying that in 20 years, this book will be hard to get, so rather than waiting 20 years, buy your copy now Cabintom, you are more that correct in saying it correspond to a very low demand Bichos, that would be a good idea to buy a copy If you all make an effort, rather than complaining about the high cost and the limited edition, we could print more of the next Libert's work and sell them at lower prices ... A+, Michel
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Post by africaone on Nov 16, 2014 3:46:39 GMT -8
Libert's work is very important for African collectors because he is the first publishing in these groups, updating old works and showing rarely illustrated species. He made a real useful background work. In commercial POV, the problem is at least double - he publish only in french with difficult text and logic to follow (even for french)- and the numbers of collectors for the African fauna is quite poor espacially in the small butterflies groups in which Libert specialised.
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Post by Adam Cotton on Nov 16, 2014 6:15:31 GMT -8
In reality it is not good scientific practise to describe new species and subspecies in a book, especially with such a low print run. The best approach is to publish the descriptions of new taxa in a journal first, and then include the taxa in the book with references to the original descriptions.
Of course this does lessen the selling power of the publication, but new taxon descriptions should be much more readily available than just 75 copies worldwide.
Adam.
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Post by mygos on Nov 16, 2014 6:47:48 GMT -8
In reality it is not good scientific practise to describe new species and subspecies in a book, especially with such a low print run. The best approach is to publish the descriptions of new taxa in a journal first, and then include the taxa in the book with references to the original descriptions. Adam. That would be ideal Adam, and in the same time I think that when you publish a revision or monography, one must be quite proud of publishing something substancial ! A+, Michel
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