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Post by saye on Dec 7, 2014 9:38:20 GMT -8
The term aurelian can be found in multiple (usually nineteenth century, I believe) references relating to those interested in lepidoptera. A self-appointed term, someone interested in butterflies (for the most part) was called an aurelian. The etymology reveals a connection to aureolius - golden; of gold; of golden nature - and the explanation that then ensues is that the aurelians called themselves so because of the notorious morphology of certain chrysalises (this already referring to a golden characteristic); that is, gold or golden-like in appearance.
Now, this explanation would be just fine if Europe was abound in such chrysalises, it's not. The easiest target to presume would be the patches of, yes, golden form in the pupae of Vanessa atalanta (though Polygonia c-album has noticeable - and variable - and similar marks, but not golden). Usually, the species Euploea core is referred to as an example of these chrysalises, but this species is not European, neither are other examples of other "showy" species, which should usually be tropical.
It would seem more likely that aurelian would have been a different take on the word chrysalis, rather then an specifically original term for the same thing.
Does anyone have any proper references regarding this?
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Post by irisscientist on Dec 7, 2014 11:35:37 GMT -8
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Post by saye on Dec 7, 2014 14:11:25 GMT -8
That's great! Thank you, it's the second time you've helped me with something that required more dedicated online research. I also find it a bit amusing that I accidentally, on a whim I might add, came close to the correct answer. However, since the society dates from the eighteenth century, it wouldn't be so strange they would ride on a specific chrysalis, such as that of E. core, to emphasise a word. Though there's no such reference in this literature, it seems. Meaning that the example of said species might just be a modern take on what someone might think they meant. Clearly, they used aurelia as a synonym for chrysalis - independently of its relation to golden pupae.
Again, thanks!
On a completely different subject: are you familiar with lepidopteran (or insect, if not as specific) immunology?
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Post by irisscientist on Dec 7, 2014 15:26:16 GMT -8
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Post by saye on Dec 9, 2014 14:18:15 GMT -8
Again, I would have gotten the feeling I searched for some literature and found nothing notable - it's clearly otherwise. Well worth consideration (this stuff isn't cheap though). If I happen to formulate a specific question (or several) I will PM you. Thank you for the availability, and thank you for the information!
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