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Post by stapleton on Dec 27, 2014 5:22:53 GMT -8
These P. autocrator females come from Sarez Lake area, W Pamirs. Being probably the most hard to access of all of the species' known localities, this habitat gives hope the Pamirs autocrator will survive overcollecting by paraentomologists and mass slaughter by the poachers hired by the former. Attachments:
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Post by nomihoudai on Dec 27, 2014 9:45:56 GMT -8
Your sentence is losing its grip when adding a picture of dead samples...
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Post by stapleton on Dec 27, 2014 17:08:14 GMT -8
There are only two, not twenty two or two hundred twenty two...
Or shall I delete the photos?
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Post by steve on Dec 27, 2014 23:24:33 GMT -8
Did you collect them yourself? It would be amazing to see that area.
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Post by stapleton on Dec 28, 2014 0:00:50 GMT -8
Unfortunately not, although several times I flew over the place in a Mi-8 chopper. Attachments:
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Post by nomihoudai on Dec 28, 2014 1:56:52 GMT -8
No it is fine, you are free to say whatever you want and think. I just wanted to point out the logical fallacy from my POV.
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Post by stapleton on Dec 28, 2014 2:13:38 GMT -8
Well, thanks for permission...
To me it looks like a fallacy of yours, for envy is what never loses its grip.
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Post by bichos on Dec 28, 2014 5:40:07 GMT -8
There are only two, not twenty two or two hundred twenty two... Or shall I delete the photos? Why delete? Damage is done!!! |
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Post by nomad on Dec 28, 2014 7:24:45 GMT -8
Firstly, I would like to point out that these specimens of autocrator are either geographical variation or a subspecies and not an aberration. Stapleton would seem to imply that some parnassius populations are been seriously depleted by commercial collectors?. I wonder if Radusho will comment on this.
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Post by suzuki on Dec 28, 2014 7:58:30 GMT -8
What ever your views these are 2 images of a beautiful,rare butterfly in good condition and well set.The pictures should not be deleted
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Post by nomad on Dec 28, 2014 11:54:52 GMT -8
What ever your views these are 2 images of a beautiful,rare butterfly in good condition and well set.The pictures should not be deleted Yes, they are perfect specimens  |
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Post by stapleton on Dec 28, 2014 18:17:26 GMT -8
Thanks, nomad.
Thanks, suzuki.
I may agree with nomad regarding the Sarez population specimens being somewhat a separate geo-variation, but not a subspecies. So far, this is P. autocrator autocrator described by Avinov (1913), and the upper specimen is just an aberration, I believe.
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