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Post by ornithorchid on Apr 6, 2015 11:27:19 GMT -8
I am game for the PNG trip  |
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Post by suzuki on Apr 6, 2015 13:10:36 GMT -8
Well that is 3 of us, then a trip to Jamaica for P.homerus.
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Post by mantisboy on Apr 6, 2015 14:06:38 GMT -8
Well that is 3 of us, then a trip to Jamaica for P.homerus. I'll make that four, and at that point we might as well go to Luzon too! |
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Post by ornithorchid on Apr 6, 2015 15:00:04 GMT -8
Wow... If we get a few more participants we are for sure getting a good group price.
Anyone has previous PNG experience?
Or do we need to hire a guide?
Philippines is in the same geographic zone... A little away for Jamaica; yet Jamaica will certainly be cheaper of a trip.
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Post by ornithorchid on Apr 6, 2015 18:55:29 GMT -8
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Post by exoticimports on Apr 7, 2015 5:16:02 GMT -8
Anyone has previous PNG experience? Or do we need to hire a guide? . You don't just need a guide, you need a contact that has political connections. If you show up in PNG with butterfly nets you'll be tossed in prison, fined heavily, and deported. Same with Jamaica and many other countries. Jamaicans are very protective of homerus- not just the ecologists, but the people as well. If you are spotted trying to catch homerus (good luck anyway) they will arrest and imprison you; unlike PNG you won't likely buy your way out of that. In PNG, and other places, you can expect to pay bribes/compensation, etc. for totally legal activities. Even if you had all the permits, the chief of the village, the village elders, the provincial minister, everybody will get some $$ out of you, or you're done. If you don't pay, somebody will make noise to some politician and next thing you know you'll be in police custody for two days or two weeks while they "investigate." And that's for LEGAL activities. Third world bug collecting is not for the lighthearted or inexperienced. I know an American who stumbled across illegal activity in Solomon Islands and reported it. Big mistake. He was arrested and detained for 30 days...just long enough for the illegal activities to be completed. See, the politicians were involved with the illegal activities, as is typical. In the end, once the stuff was exported he finally got in front of a judge, paid $57 and was released. Don't screw around with third world countries unless you have connections and money and lots of time. |
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Post by mothman27 on Jan 15, 2016 14:59:03 GMT -8
How much does a CITES permit cost?
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