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Post by obiwankenobi55555 on May 10, 2015 10:15:39 GMT -8
Hello,
Can you help me in this point please. This is probably Papilio woodfordi but I have add picture of normal woodford (with white scales), and this second one with much yellow form (much lower condition specimen).But as you can see there is difference between. Does this yellow form have some name or it is some kind of aberration? Both specimens came from Bougainville Solomon Isl.
Thank you.
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 10, 2015 10:50:09 GMT -8
It looks like this was an ex pupa specimen that was killed before the wings had dried properly, and the band has discoloured as a result.
Adam.
PS. It is Papilio woodfordi woodfordi as you think.
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Post by obiwankenobi55555 on May 10, 2015 10:59:55 GMT -8
It looks like this was an ex pupa specimen that was killed before the wings had dried properly, and the band has discoloured as a result. Adam. PS. It is Papilio woodfordi woodfordi as you think. Very interesting Adam, thank you for answer. |
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 10, 2015 12:37:02 GMT -8
Yes this is a common problem with ex pupa material from native rearers. Often the adults are killed when they are not yet dry, because they are afraid it will flap its wings and get damaged. The wrinkled wing surfaces clearly show this is what happened to this specimen. Sometimes they can be killed so quickly that when the specimen is relaxed the wings become floppy, as it was killed before the veins had hardened. When such as specimen is spread it does harden again when it dries. Often the scales on these specimens do not look quite natural.
Adam.
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Post by exoticimports on May 11, 2015 10:45:26 GMT -8
Similar problem may be observed with fuscus from geographic Solomon Is.
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 11, 2015 11:21:04 GMT -8
Indeed, and in a lot of the old IFTA material from PNG too. Papilio fuscus is partial to this discolouration if killed too soon, and I've also seen it in P. bridgei from the Solomons as well as P. woodfordi.
Adam.
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Post by Adam Cotton on May 11, 2015 11:22:38 GMT -8
Of course these woodfordi from Bougainville probably came through IFTA.
Adam.
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