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Post by wojturo on Mar 5, 2011 10:45:19 GMT -8
Dear Friends, please help me in Id of this species. It comes from N.E.India. I thought this is Mycteristes tibetanus but the horns from a top and specially side view are differnt. Also I have checked and regarding to Cetoniidae of the World, Mycteristes tibetanus occure in N. Thailand, Myanmar and Tibet. If anyone could help I will be very thankful. All the best, Wojciech Attachments:
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Post by wojturo on Mar 5, 2011 10:46:03 GMT -8
And the top view Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 11:33:49 GMT -8
Just some thoughts..... I really do think yours is M. tibetanus for a few reasons. 1. It is (actually) the only Mycteristes with the horns shaped as they are. Looking at Plt.128 #1506 of the book "The Cetoniinae of the world", the horns are very similar and unlike any of the others. 2. It has a green pronutm with brownish/green elytra and is the only one with such coloration that has the two horns. Others colored like yours have the single horn. 3. Myanmar and Tibet are fairly close to NE India. 4. Maybe yours is a ssp. of M. tibetanus, but of the species. Bear in mind, also, that the listed ranges of many of the beetles in that book are a bit restricted (could actually fan out more). 5. Considering the angle of the photo, my attached pic is like yours in horn type/shape, basic coloration, and yours has horns like mine, but perhaps yours is a 'major' form (larger overall horns) and mine is minor (smaller less prominate horns). Mine is from Thailand...btw. Now I may be wrong, but thought I'd share my thinking as I see your beetle, mine, and the book. Attachments:
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Post by wojturo on Mar 5, 2011 11:45:02 GMT -8
Dear Bill,
thank you very much for your help.
Can you add a side photo of your specimen?
I dont have it in my collection and just wanted to see a good shot of side view to campare, spacially horns.
Probably you right and the specimen I have is just major horns development or local ssp.
Wojciech
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Post by wojturo on Mar 5, 2011 12:02:58 GMT -8
Here is the compare with a photo of Mycteristes tibetanus that I have just receive form my friend. The horns are very different... Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 12:16:45 GMT -8
Hello again, Ok, here is the profile----sorry about the quality. I just have to center my main ID thougts on the fact that no other Myceristes have horns anything like these. Regarding the major and minor thing, in the next two replies, consider Narycius opalus (Cetonid from India) and the two pics..one major horns and one minor horns, but same species. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 12:17:48 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 12:19:07 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 12:21:16 GMT -8
Now.......whether I'm correct or not......I'd love to have some others of you hop on and tell us your thoughts with this Mycteristes question.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 12:30:31 GMT -8
Regarding your 12:02 post of the two side-by-side, note also (besides just focusing on the horns) that every other detail between the two is the same. The shape of the side of the pronotum, the forward corner of the elytra and even the ends of the femors look to be the same. That forward corner of both your pics really stands out as something that ties them together.
The key----as I see it---- is not the horns (bigger more robust as opposed to smaller finer), but that only M. tibetanus has that array of horns (two that reach out forcep-like) of the group.
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Post by nusferatus369 on Mar 5, 2011 15:30:58 GMT -8
Just to see some fariation on the N. opalus green and some purple in the horn. I also have dark female. Good to see you here in the forum wojturo. This guy have nice beetles to sell on ebay. One of my favorite seller.  |
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Post by wojturo on Mar 6, 2011 0:23:59 GMT -8
Hello,
Thank you very much nusferatus369 , I will write some more on forum soon.
Im preparing my Coleoptera collection and should shear some photos in favorite specimen section.
Wojciech
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Post by nosorog on Nov 20, 2013 22:19:13 GMT -8
I was searching for some info about Mycteristes genus and found this topic. A correction - this is not exactly 'minor' Narycius opalus; it's a female. |
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