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Post by civix001 on Sept 16, 2015 12:02:47 GMT -8
Hello everyones, here are some 3 kinds of ACTIAS. 1. This pair seems to be ACTIAS ARTEMIS ARTEMIS (Russia ussuriysk. far east just top of North Korea). What is the differences with SJOEQVISTI from Russia ?  Could someone confirme it ? 2. These 2 ACTIAS come from Shaanxi in QingYang. The problem with the location is the bad writing when I bought them. Elevation is 1600m For me, they are 2 differents species. The first  ? and the second is from the FELICIS group but wich one ?   If someone could help me ? Thank a lot Best |
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Post by civix001 on Sept 19, 2015 11:31:32 GMT -8
No one could help ?
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Post by oehlkew on Sept 19, 2015 13:46:01 GMT -8
Civix001,
I think the first two (pair) are correct as Actias artemis artemis.
Please realize it is not always easy to do ids, especially at a quick glance.
If I am going to take the time to try to compare (might take a couple of hours and is somewhat frustrating without wing span and no date) to see what is a best match, I would at least like you to give me some additional help. I do not know why you are not posting wingspans?? That could at least help those who might try to help you.
If you post wing spans for the others, I will try to place them. It is good that you have posted elevation.
There are probably quite a few Actias species from Shaanxi, China, many of them very similar in appearance.
Bill Oehlke
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Post by oehlkew on Sept 19, 2015 14:20:28 GMT -8
In the second group, the two males, the upper specimen has pink in the tails suggesting a selene subspecies. I will see what is closest to southern Shaanxi in way of selene and will make a guess in a subsequent post. For the second male, devoid of pink in tails and pointed wing apices, I think either Actias ningpoana ningtaibaishana which I think is considerably larger than the second choice of Actias felicis arianae.
Possibly the selene type species has an incorrect location???
Bill Oehlke
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Post by oehlkew on Sept 19, 2015 14:32:40 GMT -8
I am pretty sure the other one with pink in the hindwing tails is Actias selene selene from southern China. I think the location in Shaanxi is incorrect, but maybe selene ranges that far north, but I doubt it.
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Post by civix001 on Sept 20, 2015 11:57:30 GMT -8
Dear Bill, Thank you for your answer. Sometimes I'm so exited to have id with my specimens that I forgot everyone have also other thing to do or have to take time to help.  So thank you again for the time you grant me. I have other specimens to ID and I will write all the data I have and of course the wing span that could help a lot. About the Actias (selene selene), I trust my seller and I think he was cheated. For the one that I thought it was from the felicis group my big doubt was the size because mine is quite as big as a selene is. So the Actias ningpoana ningtaibaishana really seems to match. Thank you for help. Best P.S : if you want to use my picture for your webside, do it. (I can provide better picture, just ask) |
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Post by oehlkew on Sept 20, 2015 12:18:47 GMT -8
Thanks,
Can you please supply the data (wingspans) so I can add the images and the wingspans to the data base.
Bill
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Post by civix001 on Sept 21, 2015 10:44:08 GMT -8
Hi Bill, Thanks a lot. Here is the picture with a unit of measure ( cm ) So data are : QingYang in Shaanxi. Elevation 1600m.  |
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Post by oehlkew on Sept 21, 2015 11:19:59 GMT -8
Thanks,
It is a good match for Actias ningpoana ningtaibaishana in appearance, location, size and elevation
Actias felicis arianeae is considerably smaller ad seems not to have such a pointed forewing apex.
I will add the image shortly to the Actias ningpoana ningtaibaishana page as a tentative id.
I would not be surprised if it someday soon gets a new subspecies designation. The hindwing ocellus is slightly larger than I would expect for
ningtaibaishana
Bill Oehlke
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Post by civix001 on Sept 21, 2015 11:31:20 GMT -8
Thanks Bill,
I will check on your webside.
I also P.M you.
Best
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? and the second is from the FELICIS group but wich one 
