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Post by stapleton on Nov 17, 2015 7:20:17 GMT -8
Could somebody comment on the following: a seemingly well-known seller is refusing to send a PayPal invoice, but is asking to send him money up front to his PayPal account. To me it looks somewhat suspicious. Am I right? Thank you.
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Post by exoticimports on Nov 17, 2015 7:41:08 GMT -8
In invoice is a legal document, but also part of a transaction. The typical formal paperwork includes: quotation, order, order acknowledgement, invoice, payment. In peer-to-peer transactions many of these steps are skipped.
A very detailed invoice may protect you if what you receive does not match the invoice. But just "an invoice" doesn't mean much except somebody is asking for money.
When I sell I don't generate a PP invoice, it's too much work. But I operate on reputation and typically only sell to buyers I know.
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Post by stapleton on Nov 17, 2015 7:54:40 GMT -8
Thanks exoticimports, I see.
The thing is that the seller does not know me and vice versa...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2015 8:10:56 GMT -8
When I pay with PayPal, I add in the note section of your PayPal "send money" page all the specimens I'm buying even if they are sold from within the US. Thus any foreign material purchased clearly show that they, the seller, are providing you with foreign stuff so you/I can prove that purchased material came from inside the US and I did not buy them from overseas and not report them w USFW.....import them. Then print out a copy of your payment and on the printout, a list of what you bought will be part of the printed page for record keeping. If you are buying from outside the US, a similar page can be printed so there is a record of what was purchased....and....the seller has no say in this as you are adding the specimen list to your payment receipt. PayPal will give you a confirmation notice which will also have your list of specimens you put in the note section.
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Post by timmsyrj on Dec 24, 2015 4:40:58 GMT -8
I think it's to avoid the PayPal fees, paying a PayPal invoice would require a fee, but just sending money through PayPal can be passed of as a gift payment and the seller would not lose a percentage of the money in PayPal fees. I think you pay the fee for sending the gift payment, rather than them paying the fee for any transaction.
Rich
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Post by Borja Gómez on Dec 25, 2015 11:26:00 GMT -8
Hello
If the buyer uses paypal account money (not bank account or credit card) and he sends it as a gift to the seller, no fee is charged to any. If any other kind of source of money is used, different from the money stored on the paypal account, then a fee will be charged, although is smaller than the standard fee charged to the seller, wich % depend on the country of origin of the buyer and the exchange rate. Also note that if you send as a gift, and not as a payment of products or services, paypal doesn't grant buyer protection on the transaction, so use this only if you trust on the reputation of the seller.
Regards
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Post by Adam Cotton on Dec 25, 2015 11:46:44 GMT -8
Also note that if you send as a gift, and not as a payment of products or services, paypal doesn't grant buyer protection on the transaction, so use this only if you trust on the reputation of the seller. ... and therein lies the danger to the buyer of sending a Paypal payment as a gift. Adam.
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Post by Cassida on Dec 26, 2015 8:00:09 GMT -8
... and therein lies the danger to the buyer of sending a Paypal payment as a gift. Adam. Yes, it maybe a danger - but not so a big danger I mean,... Important is, that the buyer have some agreement (like email,...). When it is buying out of eBay, well you do not have "eBay buyer/seller protection". It does not much matter if you have an official invoice (or not),... Business is always a risk.
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Post by lovebeetles on Dec 26, 2015 8:43:10 GMT -8
You will have Paypal protection if you send it not as a gift but as a gift you have no protection via Paypal. Only protection is if you fund Paypal via a credit card then you generally have protection with your credit card provider and can use charge back also to get money back
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